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PostPosted: 10:49 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: How to know your limits when it comes to leaning? Reply with quote

I always feel like I can lean more, but i'm scared I'd fall.

Any tips on how to know your limits whilst going around bends/corners?
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put your knee on the floor.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyro. wrote:
Put your knee on the floor.


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PostPosted: 10:52 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Re: How to know your limits when it comes to leaning? Reply with quote

Kal-El wrote:


Any tips on how to know your limits whilst going around bends/corners?


If you fall off you have gone beyond yours or the bikes limits.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liam_ wrote:
Pyro. wrote:
Put your knee on the floor.


Elbow


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Depends on bike/tyres OP. Go out on a fast country road on a nice day and progressively lean further to build confidence. Just be careful of hard acceleration whilst leant over, it won't instantly kick out and kill you, but if you feel it slide just roll off very slowly and smoothly.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it feels like you're leaning, you're probably leaning too far.

A balanced turn feels like you're upright, you don't realise you're leaning over unless you look down. Don't look down, look where you're going.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liam_ wrote:
Pyro. wrote:
Put your knee on the floor.


Elbow


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PostPosted: 20:31 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Re: How to know your limits when it comes to leaning? Reply with quote

Kal-El wrote:
I always feel like I can lean more, but i'm scared I'd fall.

Any tips on how to know your limits whilst going around bends/corners?


Book a track day. Problem solved Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:46 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've answered your own question really, your fear is your limit. To expand that limit means overcoming the fear by experience, confidence in your bike and tyres.
Look where you want to go not where you might end up, trust the tyres assuming they are good enough and just push it gradually.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sliding on the floor is a good indication that you've leant too far.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you get your willy down
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
When you get your willy down



You need to lean for that? Eh?
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick a nice, quiet, twisty road you like to ride. Keep riding it often. Don't try to force your speed. Confidence will come naturally.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:33 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on guys thats not fair

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PostPosted: 23:23 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Re: How to know your limits when it comes to leaning? Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Book a track day.


+1

Instructor said track days are more about cornering than outright speed, plus there's always going to be someone far more experienced to follow to show you how to improve corner by corner and then lap by lap.

Hell, even sweeping bends on NSL during DAS training helped me during my regular commute.

As long as we're talking safe riding with an appropriate approach etc and not dicking about trying to go knee down on roundabouts then I'd say the approach is a far more important factor and done correctly will all come together nice and smoothly to see you rubber side up on the exit of the corner.

Any examples (ie; google map images) of such bends you feel you want to improve on?
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PostPosted: 04:36 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Re: How to know your limits when it comes to leaning? Reply with quote

Kal-El wrote:
I always feel like I can lean more, but i'm scared I'd fall.

Any tips on how to know your limits whilst going around bends/corners?


First and foremost make it smooth (slow is smooth, smooth is fast innit luv). Everything else - angle of lean, how low your knee, mind and scrotum are - is irrelevant. Slow in, fast out. Get smooth, then realise you can always be at least twice as smooth again. Oh and for old times' sake - counter steering. Yeah yeah can't get round a bend without it. But really - counter steer. Or positive input, as they say.
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PostPosted: 05:06 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the things smooth. Don't try too much on the track in a single day. Make sure that your are good enough to manage the balance either you are turning or looking to try something else. Balance is the key.
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PostPosted: 05:58 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very rare to get a country road that has the visibility for it to be safe to get near to a bikes true limits. Imagine there's a tractor parked around every corner, because one day there will be.
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at your tyre is it worn to the edge? No? You can lean more. Yes? You can PROBABLY lean a LITTLE bit more Laughing

Most road bikes will grind pegs before you'll lean off the tyres.
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulFzs wrote:
lean till you feel the tyres slip out from underneath you.. thats the limit.. just before that point.


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PostPosted: 09:28 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
It's very rare to get a country road that has the visibility for it to be safe to get near to a bikes true limits. Imagine there's a tractor parked around every corner, because one day there will be.


Life would be quite boring without risk. If I rode around every country road like there was a tractor waiting, I'd be as well selling my bike and buying a 50cc ped.
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