Replacing V4 with.............

[Sleeping Dragon]

I bought a VFR800 fi as my 1st bike after my test, that was 18 months ago. I love the engine for the torque, reliability, and the sound, it's a soulful motor. Great 1st bike imo. I want something lighter that can be thrown around B roads due to my rural location here in Devon, with idealy a V4 or something as characterful . Sport or naked perhaps even a super moto , not adventure, up to £5kish, second hand of course, you're suggestions would be great. Thanx
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HONDA VFR 800 fi

[Slacker24seve...]

Define characterful?

An 08-onwards R6 would be characterful as you really have to keep the revs up; they are terrible low down but great fun when you're on it.

A 10-on Daytona is also different; it doesn't have the same top end rush but the triple engine is superb. Spend the change on tyres, fuel and a few track days.
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[moonzoomer]

You are pretty much stuck with Hondas if you want a V4, they are all pretty much the same, I would suggest a late Honda VTR 1000 V twin, they have plenty of what you have asked for with the bonus of not having to rev the nuts of it to get anywhere.

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[almostthere]

This would be my choice for a V4 little over budget but worth paying the extra https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507135157422?search-target=usedbikes&make=aprilia&model=rsv4&channel=bikes&sort=default&postcode=bn411gu&radius=1501&page=1&quicksearch=true&logcode=p
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[Sleeping Dragon]

thanx for the replys guys, rsv or the tuono might also be an option. i wanna bike with plenty of torque, so power quite low down all the way through to the top of the rev range, not an engine that doesn't deliver anything unless you ring its neck all the way to the redline to get any power from it .An engine that delivers the V4 characteristic of power all through the rev range but with higher performance married to a more flickable chassis. I guess I better ride some bikes to get round my inexperience when it comes to different engines and performance.
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HONDA VFR 800 fi

[moonzoomer]

[Fowlersrs]

You won't get a much more flickable chassis than a daytona 675, they have a decent amount of torque low down aswell so don't have to be revved for reward on the road.

If you want silly torque try an MT09, lunatic tool

[mailee]

V max...

[Seb]

Frankly I don't buy the whole V-Twins have more torque thing, at least not the sportier ones that I've ridden (RSV/RST/SP1), the RST had the most low down oomph but would still have a fit if you dared try to pull away in second gear.

Personally I'd suggest looking at some Street Triples, pretty much the perfect bike for blasting around the moors.
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[stevo as b4]

[barrkel]

Low-down torque is more a function of how the engine is tuned than cylinder count.

A large capacity bike tuned for torque could fit your bill. I wouldn't count the cylinders to figure out that; I'd look at the power output compared with the engine capacity. Comparatively low power output for the engine size generally means it's tuned for low-down torque.
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[chickenstrip]

[ADSrox0r]

Sorry I stopped reading at "Replace V4".

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[Carvel]

A Fireblade.

Obviously
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[RhynoCZ]

Any mid-weight naked bike with a il3/4 should be alright.

I had a CB-1, 180 kg or so dry, short wheel base. That bike was swift at any circumstances given. I only sold it because 400cc engine was really of my likings speaking of mpg/performance. Bigger engines of the same layout having better mpg and way better performance made me sell it actually.

Look at Hornets 600/919, Z750/800/1000, Triumph 600/675 naked bikes, and so on. I think there is a motorcycle that will suit you.

If you really don't care about the fuel economy and you really like V2 engine layouts, then go for it, but bear in mind, that you're gonna get less power and even 40%+ worse mpg, than what you'd get from a IL-4, of ''comparable'' performance.
That's also pretty much the reason, why is Ducati allowed to have the 1299cc engines on the track, with more fuel than others.
The last time a liter V2 motorcycle was competitive, it raced against 750cc in-line fours.

EDIT: I am biased, and I'd never have a V2 motorcycle as my the no. 1 bike. But there are V2 motorcycles I'd like to have some day. A 748/996 would be nice, or a VTR SP01/02. Get the fuel tank full upto the cap, ride it for about 80 miles, time to go back home.
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[deadwolf]

You could try one of those old Honda Bros 650s. Light and narrow 188kg 50 horsepower V-twin commuter engine in a very flickable sportbike frame. Even comes with a single-sided swingarm for that extra str33t cr3d! Tiny tank range though, something along the lines of 100 miles or something.
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[stevo as b4]

If you want more sport and less touring/comfort, then have you thought about a VFR400R?

Not cheap these days for a really good one, and most will require some fettling/tidying up unless you can find a mint one? But it ticks the V4 box and has the delicious cam gear drive sound too.

For blasting a few local back roads or the odd ride to work etc it would be a good choice, but obviously it's 40bhp down on the VFR800, so would need working much harder.

Get a good one and they are like most old sports bikes, going up in value now too.

[MarJay]

The Triumph triple has a similar level of character to a Honda V4 IMO. It has the noise, the midrange, the top end etc.

The Street Triple is a fantastic bike, and will seem like a rocketship next to the VFR despite having a similar amount of power. The reason is of course lack of weight. My street triple never fails to make my eyes pop when I ride it.
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