Forza 125

[Razgrad]

Hello everyone.
I'm almost 30, and finally decided to give it a try. The reason why I never had a scooter/bike so far, is because I am a bit of an adrenaline head, and I knew I would love it so much, I'd spend most of my time and money on it. So now, after I started my family i decided to get a scooter with some sense of reason in my head.
I went to a Honda dealer and I was looking after a 125cc , as I would be new to this and I need an entry level for a few years. The first bike that popped in front of me, was the one I loved the most , out of all others in this category. It was the Forza 125. A bit too much $$$ , but I guess you get what you pay for. This weekend I'm doing the CBT course, and perhaps next week i'll be signing the finance contract with Honda on a 3y repayments. It costs about 4k.
Got a few questions (obviously as any new rider...)
Can you suggest a reliable and good GPS tracker under 40quid? I've got few friends who canceled their theft insurance ,once they've read the smallest letters in the conditions... It basicly says they'll cover it, only if its stolen from your garage ( I don't have one) , or from your living room (bullshit) . So there is no point of doing this insurance. I'd rather get some strong chains and a gps tracker instead.
So I'm open for suggestions for good and reliable :

1. GPS tracker <50, preferably rechargeble with long lasting battery life and a strong signal and easy to use.

2. Good way to secure my scooter for something ( i.e Chains, lockers, lockpads etc...) again <30 would be great.

3. A suitable clothing for London weather. I am 190cm tall, and I weight about 110kg.

4. Good mid-range helmet. I don't know what is the mid-range price, but i guess 100 ?

5. A good bike mount for a Garmin GPS or phone with gps. Also what cables and adapters would I need.

7- A nice action cam. I know the go-pro is the way to go, but I think its battery life inst that great. Also Go-pro is mostly for memories. Not for an everyday cam. Or am i wrong ?

6. I am open for suggestions on other scooters that would fit my budget and my body height and weight .

Open for any other suggestions , that would help a new-commer love the motoring world.

Looking forward for your comments, a nice Hello is kindly appreciated.

Regards,
Ross.

[arry]

[NJD]

[delsol]

Not sure if OP serious.

Adrenaline head, buys a Forza 125 !!!

4k on a bike and wants "Chains, lockers, lockpads etc..." for less than £30.00, you can get a padlock for £30.00 that will offer some deterrence (but not a lot).

With a bit of DIY and some improvisation you could have a good deterrent chain\lock\hold down system for under a £100.00, and £60.00 of that would be for the padlock. This would be be for home security.

Out and about security, well you could use the same chain and padlock from the home security system, but it's going to be bulky and heavy to offer any real deterrent.

Check out these for indicative costs for proprietary on the go chain and padlock prices: https://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/Anchors-and-Locks__c-p-0-0-71.aspx

https://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/Anchors-and-Locks__c-p-0-0-71.aspx

[Razgrad]

[delsol]

[NJD]

[andyscooter]

if it gets nicked it will end up stripped and burnt out before the tracker can find it so not worth it imo

also my insurance small print states must be kept in a garage when at the address, which I do anyway.

so if I am out its fine but if I am at home it should be in the garage

I excepted this when I took out the policy as it halved my excess and took the price way down
also look at the Yamaha n max if you like the forza as It is the alternate machine from Yamaha
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[Razgrad]

I did check the direct rival from Yamaha, and both look great. The reason I prefer the Honda is because I watched some reviews and comparisons and the honda came on top in most categories. Also I had no chance to sit on an Yamaha, so I couldnt tell the difference
Is it normal for me to feel so exited even before I have the CBT done and even before having the bike purchased ......lol

[delsol]

[Northern Monkey]

An MSX will be significantly more fun to ride than any twist and go scoot. 4 grand is a huge amount to pay for a 125 <15hp bike, however, it will be very desirable to every scroat and scumbag out there.

Ditch the tracker, and concentrate on it not being stolen in the first place.

This means spending £150 on a chain and lock from almax, and another £40-50 on a good ground anchor, as an absolute minimum
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[delsol]

Just had a chat with a skipper down the local fishing harbour, says he probably has heavy chain off-cuts in one of his containers, and maybe a heavy shackle that is missing a pin.

He said I can have it for beer money.

I will concrete the shackle into the ground, a good padlock is gonna cost though, I never see those coming up second hand.

Something to secure my trailer to, for under a hundred quid, worth it.

[Taught2BCauti...]

Hello and welcome.

I have to query the wisdom behind buying a brand-new 125 scooter on a 3 year finance deal, when the chances are that you would want to pass your tests before your CBT runs out, and move up to a bigger machine.

Even if you plan to keep it for 3 years or more, I would still look for a 'nearly new' model, and spend the money you save on clothing and security.

There are several threads on tracking devices for bikes - the latest one is Here.

You can find a wider variety of mounts and other accessories from bicycle shops, that are often cheaper than those you will find at motorcycle shops. I would be wary about having anything expensive on open display though - you wouldn't want to have it snatched whilst stuck in traffic!

Another thought - if you work in central London but your employer doesn't have a staff car park - is there another company nearby that does? It would be worth asking their security guys if they had a small corner that they would let you park in.

It worked for me once, and only cost me a couple of bags of donuts every Friday.
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[stirlinggaz]

Hi,
3 years on finance? I pretty guarantee you will tire of the bike (oh, wait. its a scooter, right?) long before the 3 years is up.
how much? 4 grand? 4 F*CKIN GRAND? are you mental? for a 1st bike, in London?
dont pay any more than 2 grand on your 1st bike . actually, look at bikes around £1500.
go for something bullet proof & reliable like the coveted honda varadero 125.
also consider this : most ppl drop their 1st bike at least once. how will you feel if your brand new shiney plastic scooter is cracked, scratched with torn stickers within a year?
Also, remember you will need gear,that at least another 250 quid before you even consider at least 1 helmet.
then there's important security you are thinking about. a cheap tracker is only good for the sticker that says TRACKER FITTED!, might be a bit of a deterrent.
spend as much as you can afford on chains, ground anchors etc it still wont be enough.
if some thieving pikey REALLY wants to steal your bike, they will find a way.

HTH

cheers,
GAZ

[barrkel]

IMO you'd be better served with a second-hand PS125 / SH125, or PCX125 if you prefer the Forza's styling.

I've ridden scooters through London far the past 7 years or so. I prefer the combo of a smallish scooter with big wheels to a scooter that's trying to look big, like the Forza.

For 4k, I'd be expecting to get a 250cc minimum. I think it's a complete waste of money to spend 4k on a 125. Once you pass your license, you'll have the option of getting something that's nippier between traffic with little if nothing lost on agility, and you'll be stuck with a 125 that doesn't look very attractive on the second hand market.

Bear in mind I've spent 4k twice, on two separate SH300s, and 2.2k on a third, for reasons too complex to go into here. I don't mind splashing out on a scooter that I think is worth it, and I have not yet tired of riding a scooter in London (quite the opposite - I really enjoy riding a scooter that looks like a 125 but is much faster, whereas a 300cc bike will always be slower than it looks; also, gears on a low power bike are tedium in dense traffic).

Forza 125 weighs 165kg wet, 14 hp. SH300 weighs 160kg dry, 27hp, and it doesn't take very many fluids. I guarantee you that the SH300 is a better tool in the city once you're qualified to ride it.

A tracker on a scooter is pointless IMO. If the scooter goes missing, the chances it gets recovered intact are low. Pack a 16mm chain under your seat and lock it to something fixed - I never leave a scooter for more than 15 minutes without it being physically attached to something immovable, at a minimum another bike or three. But in your position I'd prefer to own something worth locking up.
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[Razgrad]

I've passed the CBT course today.
Had a couple of more serious mistakes, as I have not experience with scooters/bikes what so ever. Also coming from an East European Country riding on the "wrong" side of the road to what i'm used to, did not help to boost my confidence and for me to focus on the proper riding of the bike. However my instructor was a good guy, he gave me a few more chances to fix my mistakes and at the end of the 30 min ride i Passed. Still not feeling confident , so once I take a scooter, I will ride around the calm streets in the area for a few weeks to get used to the left lane. Only Then I'll try to get to work with it.
Next week I am going to the shop to do some test drives, and make my final choice. I still like the Forza the most, did a lot of research and reviews. Yes, it is very expensive for a first time buyer, but I am one of those people that like to look after their stuff and who got attached to things, and never let go of them. I still have my favorite t-shirt from before 10 years ago. So I'll probably be Ok with the "its not powerful enough for me anymore" syndrome. Once I pay for it in 3 yrs time, then I'll look for options.
I consider only Honda , for reasons even I can't explain. Perhaps it's because all my friends have hondas and the fact that they are very good and reliable.
Now its time to do research on the gear and perhaps worth buying before I get the scooter.

[delsol]

Congratulations on passing the CBT

As for what bike you get, your money, your choice, enjoy

[barrkel]

[andyscooter]

[Northern Monkey]

If you keep your eyes open on ebay, these

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yale-Maximum-Extreme-Conditions-Hardened-Steel-Padlock-63mm-Y300C-63-127-1-/331623056495?hash=item4d3646446f

quite often come up new for <£30 CEN4 or above certified locks are what you need.

You'll be lucky to find a CEN6 lock for less than £80
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[delsol]

[Razgrad]

Hey guys
I've watched many videos, trying to decide what bike to get and I really liked the Forza 125. I went to the shop and testdrove the forza and the PCX and the T-MAX and some other scooters too.... and I realized scooters are not for me. Reason is I am too tall, and i feel uncomfortable on a scooter. my knees are practically hurting only from like 30 min drive. I am about 1.91m and over 100kg in weight and the position i'm on a scooter is not comfortable for me. So I am looking for a regular shape bike with Automatic Gearbox and 125 engine. Can you suggest anything that I could go and try. There is a honda model ( forgot the name) , but it's very small too , for my size. I would gladly appreciate if you could point me some models I could try. Reason why I want automatic is because my CBT license is for Automatic only. I took it last week with the hope i'll be ordering the Forza after my test drive. Unfortunetely that's not the case...
Thank you.

[Northern Monkey]

Your cbt isn't automatic only. It has a box to say that you did it on an automatic bike, but that does not restrict you to non-geared bikes.
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Fisty: after polishing the tank with the glistenng beads of sweat from my full hot scrotum, I filled the headrace bearings with 10cc of my manmilk

[andyscooter]

[barrkel]