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PostPosted: 13:05 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:10 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid title is stupid.

Islam/ISIS? Is that like, Christianity/IRA?
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blame the Jews.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
I blame the Jews.


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PostPosted: 13:25 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
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I blame the Jews.


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PostPosted: 13:36 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
Doovy wrote:
I blame the Jews.


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PostPosted: 13:42 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
Stupid title is stupid.

Islam/ISIS? Is that like, Christianity/IRA?


Dunno, doesn't one of the Is stand for "Islamic"?

I don't give two shits about the theology of it but they do make a claim to representing a religion that may not be true of the IRA. So apples, meet oranges. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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claim to representing a religion that may not be true of the IRA. So apples, meet oranges. Rolling Eyes


Are you actually serious?

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PostPosted: 13:50 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
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claim to representing a religion that may not be true of the IRA. So apples, meet oranges. Rolling Eyes


Are you actually serious?

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The IRA have never claimed to represent a religion AFAIK, just because they are mostly Catholics doesn't mean they fight for all Catholics. I'd bet there are plenty of non Catholics, that counted themselves as Sinn Fein/IRA/PIRA, for the general hatred of the Brits/Unified Ireland/whatever.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could easily find some examples of various Armies, doing similar BTW. I wonder how many 82 year olds have been collateral damaged over the years...
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

KnightsFall wrote:
lihp wrote:
Stupid title is stupid.

Islam/ISIS? Is that like, Christianity/IRA?


Dunno, doesn't one of the Is stand for "Islamic"?

I don't give two shits about the theology of it but they do make a claim to representing a religion that may not be true of the IRA. So apples, meet oranges. Rolling Eyes


ISIS = Islamic State In Syria

Islam = Religion
ISIS = Terrorist organisation

Just because they use Islam as some kind of justification of their actions, it is still quite a stretch to say "Islam beheaded somebody"
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
You could easily find some examples of various Armies, doing similar BTW. I wonder how many 82 year olds have been collateral damaged over the years...


Back to the argument, which is worse -

60000 dead in a few seconds in Hiroshima including all ages, etc.etc.

1 82 year old targeted just because he isn't a certain religion.

There was that young girl stoned to death for falling in love with the 'wrong person' and people videoed it on their phones.

When it's so personal it seems a lot more horrific.

All religions have been guilty of pretty horrible thinks over the years. At present it is Islams turn to try and be the most disgusting and they are doing a pretty good job.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
Doovy wrote:
I blame the Jews.


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PostPosted: 14:46 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
KnightsFall wrote:


Dunno, doesn't one of the Is stand for "Islamic"?

I don't give two shits about the theology of it but they do make a claim to representing a religion that may not be true of the IRA. So apples, meet oranges. Rolling Eyes


ISIS = Islamic State In Syria

Islam = Religion
ISIS = Terrorist organisation

Just because they use Islam as some kind of justification of their actions, it is still quite a stretch to say "Islam beheaded somebody"


Dress it up how you want, if there wasn't Islam, you wouldn't have Isis. You can't pick and chose which bits of a religion you want unless you can do something about the bits you don't want. I'm sure Isis would say they are true Islam.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dress it up how you want, if there wasn't Islam, you wouldn't have Isis. You can't pick and chose which bits of a religion you want unless you can do something about the bits you don't want. I'm sure Isis would say they are true Islam.


Same can be said about ALL religions.

There are active terrorist organisations acting on behalf of all the religions, even attacks from Christian terrorist groups as recent as 2014.

If there wasn't Islam, you would have ISIS. Just under a different name, fighting for a different true cause.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
chris-red wrote:
You could easily find some examples of various Armies, doing similar BTW. I wonder how many 82 year olds have been collateral damaged over the years...


Back to the argument, which is worse -

60000 dead in a few seconds in Hiroshima including all ages, etc.etc.

1 82 year old targeted just because he isn't a certain religion.

There was that young girl stoned to death for falling in love with the 'wrong person' and people videoed it on their phones.

When it's so personal it seems a lot more horrific.

All religions have been guilty of pretty horrible thinks over the years. At present it is Islams turn to try and be the most disgusting and they are doing a pretty good job.


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PostPosted: 15:25 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why I'm not religious and why I believe religion shouldn't have that status that means you can't criticise. That's any religion but at present if you complain about Islam you are guilty of Islamophobia according to the PC brigade, an irrational fear of Islam. Rolling Eyes Well sorry but there is nothing irrational about my present dislike of it thank you very much.

The more extremists that kill each other (in somewhere other than the UK) the happier I am. Thumbs Up
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All religions have been death merchants, it is just that islam and many of it's followers are about 1000 years behind the times but with today's technology.

You have got to admit that the ISIS lot do enjoy and come up with novel ways to murder people.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:

ISIS = Islamic State In Syria

Islam = Religion
ISIS = Terrorist organisation

Just because they use Islam as some kind of justification of their actions, it is still quite a stretch to say "Islam beheaded somebody"


ISIS = terrorist organisation with strong religious motivations (they themselves claim this is Islam).

I do not have the slightest interest in filtering through all of the various religious sects and deciding whether or not they truly belong under the umbrella of that religion. So if someone runs around waving a Quran, claming that Allah made them do it, there is a good chance I am taking it at face value that Islam motivated their actions.
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Dude in the states wants to nuke Iran to precipitate the second coming of Jesus. Discuss.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

KnightsFall wrote:
lihp wrote:

ISIS = Islamic State In Syria

Islam = Religion
ISIS = Terrorist organisation

Just because they use Islam as some kind of justification of their actions, it is still quite a stretch to say "Islam beheaded somebody"


ISIS = terrorist organisation with strong religious motivations (they themselves claim this is Islam).

I do not have the slightest interest in filtering through all of the various religious sects and deciding whether or not they truly belong under the umbrella of that religion. So if someone runs around waving a Quran, claming that Allah made them do it, there is a good chance I am taking it at face value that Islam motivated their actions.


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PostPosted: 16:04 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Dude in the states wants to nuke Iran to precipitate the second coming of Jesus. Discuss.


The 'dude' is a fantasist....ISIS are barbaric realists.
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thepuma wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Dude in the states wants to nuke Iran to precipitate the second coming of Jesus. Discuss.


The 'dude' is a fantasist....ISIS are barbaric realists.


Opinions of:
Lord's Resistance Army
Ku Klux Klan
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Antibalaka
Catholic Reaction Force/Protestant Action Force
The Orange Volunteers
The Aryan Nations
The Christian Identity Movement

All are Christian terrorist organisations.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 19 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:


Lord's Resistance Army
Ku Klux Klan
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Antibalaka
Catholic Reaction Force/Protestant Action Force
The Orange Volunteers
The Aryan Nations
The Christian Identity Movement

All are Christian terrorist organisations.


Who do not appear to be killing anyone and everyone they can, ripping down buildings and art that has stood for thousands of years, nor are they intent on ruling the world with such violence and terror.
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