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LVT1881
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: DAS Reply with quote
Hey guys just a quick question regarding getting my full license.

So ive had my 125 for two years and was wondering what route to go down as I've been reading online and a little confused.
As to going down the 125 route as to the other. I don't mind going down the 125 route and being restricted to 33bhp that way I get use to a bite more power ect.

Anyways just want to know what people did and what's easier I know its all about preference ect
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NJD
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Re: DAS Reply with quote
LVT1881 wrote:
I don't mind going down the 125 route and being restricted to 33bhp that way I get use to a bite more power ect.


Your source wouldn't be MAG by any chance?

Anyway, here in 2015.

https://www.gov.uk/ride-motorcycle-moped/bike-categories-ages-and-licence-requirements
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LVT1881
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmm might be...

I'm 25 so DAS four day course it is
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NJD
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
LVT1881 wrote:
Hmmm might be...


Borg, Borg, Borg..

Say someones name three times they appear and all.

LVT1881 wrote:
I'm 25 so DAS four day course it is


I assume that's a course offered by a local school?
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LVT1881
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
NJD wrote:
LVT1881 wrote:
Hmmm might be...


Borg, Borg, Borg..

Say someones name three times they appear and all.

LVT1881 wrote:
I'm 25 so DAS four day course it is


I assume that's a course offered by a local school?


Haha my fault should of read the date.

Yes they offer 4-6 day I believe
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LVT1881
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
NJD wrote:
LVT1881 wrote:
Hmmm might be...


Borg, Borg, Borg..

Say someones name three times they appear and all.

LVT1881 wrote:
I'm 25 so DAS four day course it is


I assume that's a course offered by a local school?


Haha my fault should of read the date.

bikertraining.co.uk one of my local school dont know if the price is good or not
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Check around and do not go for the local school just because it is local. A 4 day DAS seems a bit much. There is no reason for you to do 4 days unless your CBT has run out. Most schools offer a 3 day DAS course and theprice is normally between £400 and £700
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
My CBT runs out at the end of October.

My try some where els but its just down the road from where I live and easier. But will have a look around more places.. I'm from derby so if you know any thats not to far lol
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NJD
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
LVT1881 wrote:
My CBT runs out at the end of October.


Two months, hmm.

Depends on the school you end up going with schedule for tests and training that suit your schedule as all the schools I've spoken to buy the tests and work on a first come first serve basis. Some schools only do tests on certain days and DAS training on others, really is a school by school basis. Might be worth phoning around to check if yours and their dates match and are suitable within those two months.

I'd assume you've already passed your theory?

The only thing that sticks out about the school you linked is the fact that they accept payment and pre-book the Module 2 the day after the Module 1. Adds a bit of un-needed pressure to the pupil in my eyes, I'd consider your personal ability on a bike before investing, what may appear cheap on the surface could prove costly.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
No haven't done theory yet but booking it tomorrow to get it out the way. So all I want is to get my full license and then save up for a bigger bike so what the best option as I don't really know what all this module one and two is about I mean I've seen/watched people do it with all the cones then the mod two is on the road... So will it be just like the CBT but on a bigger bike because thats what it seems like...
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
LVT1881 wrote:
No haven't done theory yet but booking it tomorrow to get it out the way. So all I want is to get my full license and then save up for a bigger bike so what the best option as I don't really know what all this module one and two is about I mean I've seen/watched people do it with all the cones then the mod two is on the road... So will it be just like the CBT but on a bigger bike because thats what it seems like...


For reference, I've just done my DAS, and I did it in 3 days (well, more like 2½ really), and I don't learn this sort of stuff very quickly. (I spent most of the first day fighting the bike; after spending a couple of months on a CG the more-sensitive throttle on a FZ6 took a bit of getting used to.)

Mod1 is a bit like the offroad part of the CBT, but there are some new manoeuvers (some manual handling, a 30mph swerve, a controlled stop at a particular point). Since it's been a while since you did your CBT, it might be worth getting some cones (or, y'know, milk bottles) and finding a car park and practicing some slaloms and figure-eights on your 125, just to remember how they work. See here for the layout of the course. Don't forget (your instructor will probably tell you this) that you are on test until you've walked away from your bike at the end, so don't do everything perfectly then drop it parking up outside the test area!

Mod2 is fine as long as you keep your brain in your head. Make lots of obvious observations, be careful about your signalling, watch for speed limits, and don't make any stupid mistakes.

Good luck with it.
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NJD
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
LVT1881 wrote:
So all I want is to get my full license and then save up for a bigger bike


One step at a time.

There's two obvious paths to a license IMO here. (a) Wait until the end of October, do your CBT again and then theory and DAS or (b) attempt to rush it all and get it done within a two month time frame.

LVT1881 wrote:
as I don't really know what all this module one and two is about I mean I've seen/watched people do it with all the cones then the mod two is on the road... So will it be just like the CBT but on a bigger bike because thats what it seems like...


A full list of what happens on both Modules.

Module one is over in the blink of an eye and is really just to demonstrate that you're able to control the machine your on and handle it at slow speeds without trouble before going out on the roads for the Module 2. Takes 15-20 minutes to complete at most, shouldn't really be taken with a relaxed attitude but if you've ridden a 125 or have road experience it isn't the hardest thing.

Might be worth emailing or contacting the local DSA test center to ask them what training schools use their test pad on a weekend for training, their the training schools you want to be going with. That way it leaves less to be worried about on the day and you now what to expect.

Module two is a 40-45 minute road ride around a route chosen by the DSA examiner to test you're knowledge of road signs, forward planning, road position, etc etc.

Read above, my hands hurt don't want to type anymore.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 24 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
NJD wrote:
Borg, Borg, Borg..

Say someones name three times they appear and all.

Can't type, too busy laughing at that 125 / 33bhp comment. Oh MAG, why you so cray-cray?
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
NJD wrote:
Borg, Borg, Borg..

Say someones name three times they appear and all.

Can't type, too busy laughing at that 125 / 33bhp comment. Oh MAG, why you so cray-cray?


That's nothing. I had a guy come into the bar I work in claiming he's going through A2 DAS with a local school and they are letting him do it on his 125 and after he will be restricted to 46.6 and be able to ride a restricted R6.

When I informed him of the truth of the matter, that if you pass on a 125 you can only ride a 125 he said, and I quote "We'll have to agree to disagree." He still argued the point even after I said "You can agree to disagree all you want, I'm a DAS instructor and I am right."

I cant wait until his test, I keep asking the odd time he comes in but so far no results. I want to be there at the test centre when he gets his A1 full licence after paying his £600 for "DAS"
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Given the complexity of licensing and the ignorance about it (thaaaanks, MAG), I wonder how many folk are riding around inadequately licensed. Both deliberately and accidentally.

Still, given that the ignorance and errors extend to insurers, DVLA and rozzers, it's probably a fairly low risk hazard.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's an interesting point Borg

Although I do have to question whether all of those mentioned are the retarded ones or is it those who set the stupid rules in the first place
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
That's nothing. I had a guy come into the bar I work in claiming he's going through A2 DAS with a local school and they are letting him do it on his 125 and after he will be restricted to 46.6 and be able to ride a restricted R6.

When I informed him of the truth of the matter, that if you pass on a 125 you can only ride a 125 he said, and I quote "We'll have to agree to disagree." He still argued the point even after I said "You can agree to disagree all you want, I'm a DAS instructor and I am right."

I cant wait until his test, I keep asking the odd time he comes in but so far no results. I want to be there at the test centre when he gets his A1 full licence after paying his £600 for "DAS"


I wonder if he'd done just the first day of a DAS course, on a 125, before starting the big-bike conversion? (And was too stupid to realise he would be using a different bike after that.) Still being ripped off a bit, of course, since someone who has already been riding a 125 shouldn't need to do that bit...
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
mauzo wrote:


I wonder if he'd done just the first day of a DAS course, on a 125, before starting the big-bike conversion? (And was too stupid to realise he would be using a different bike after that.) Still being ripped off a bit, of course, since someone who has already been riding a 125 shouldn't need to do that bit...


Where I did my tests did an assessment for which I paid £25 which was knocked off the cost of training if I did my tests through them.

The estimate of 4 days went down to 2 days after the assessment.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:
Although I do have to question whether all of those mentioned are the retarded ones or is it those who set the stupid rules in the first place

Oh, I have no question. And making no moral judgement about those who choose to ignore the whole ridiculous mess and just ride their luck.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 25 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
mauzo wrote:


I wonder if he'd done just the first day of a DAS course, on a 125, before starting the big-bike conversion? (And was too stupid to realise he would be using a different bike after that.)


Nope he was adamant he could do it on his own 125cc.
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