Should I change job title?

[NJD]

TL;DR = Job title change within the same company offered of the blue, same hours, same pay below just explains the situation in detail and how the proposal came about and what changes I'd be encountering.

So a while ago I was approached by a manager and asked if I was able to work Saturdays as they didn't seem to happy that someone (possibly head office or a manager making a mistake when changing one shift on the system) had taken me off shift that day permanently without them realizing until they asked and I said "no, I don't work that day anymore".

Fast forward a month possibly more to yesterday when I was called into the office out the blue before starting a shift and had a conversation with the same manager about the whole working Saturday situation although it wasn't just a straight forward "can you or can't you?" it was a "your shifts work with what's required for a role in this section, how do you feel?".

Currently i'm a shelf stacker or customer service advisor if you want to put it nicely (I don't), the hours are rubbish but the wage is good enough to see that I've got enough for myself and the bike each month. I know what's expected in my role and how to operate all areas on the shop floor, CS, self serve, tills etc etc. Although the new role or the role that i'm currently "thinking about" is operations or warehouse staff in that I have no experience in that area or whats expected, how performance is reviewed etc.

As far as I'm aware the hours stay the same as my current contract and so does the pay the only change beside the job title is that I'd be agreeing to work an alternative Saturday, witch basically means that two weeks out of four I'll be working Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The contract would have to be secure and fixed as that's what my current one is.

On the one hand my mind is like "You don't want to stack shelves for the rest of your life and you've seen plenty of people leave the company in the short time that you've been there" but on the other hand "Why would you want to change your job title when you've got yourself to a point in your working life where you have a secure contract a role you understand inside out".

The other thing worth mentioning would be that my hours remain the same and the most challenging task I face would be taking a delivery of the lorry in the morning and then breaking it down for the staff to work (once a week) and then helping to lock up the shop (once a week).

When I was asked "How do you feel about it?" when mentioned yesterday I said "I need time to think, it's a career change, I don't want to make a decision on the spot" and have until tomorrow to decide.

Would you change roles? Any questions to ask before and if I sign the contract? To much change for no benefit?

to all.

[Tarmacsurfer]

They want to move you to a different role that involves more responsibility and working alternate weekends. Like hell would I consider moving for the same wage.

Sounds like middle management screwed up and is now attempting to save face and get something for nothing.
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[Rogerborg]

tl;dr but as above, I assume they're just trying to trick you into being more-to-blame in return for no extra reward. Best way to get a new job title is to get a new job elsewhere for more actual monies.
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[angryjonny]

[Your Employer] : Can we get you to work Saturdays?
[You] : No.
[Your Employer] : Can we get you to work Saturdays if we rephrase the question?
[You] : I'll think about it.

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[dydey90]

If you turn it down, they won't be able to understand why. You'll have to spell out that more money is required, while attempting to be diplomatic.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

You now have a job where you don't work weekends.

If they want you do a slightly different job with no extra responsibilities I wouldn't expect a pay rise.

They want you to totally change your job and working hours (to include weekends), I'd expect more money. The train drivers in London were whinging about this , not the money, honestly, the work/life balance ...
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[angryjonny]

...and it coincidentally pays exactly the same as you earn now?

[NJD]

[angryjonny]

Indeed. Question is, what's in it for you. It looks like they're offering:

(1) Less social hours. Saturday is the day when you ride into the country, go fishing, see your estranged son, whatever. You will now be able to do less of this.

(2) More responsibility. Specifically, keyholder responsibility. Say the store gets turned over when you've been the one to lock up. Who's going to be dragged through a disciplinary then?

Both of these typically equate to more money. Clearly, this is beneficial to your employer or they wouldn't be asking. It needs to be beneficial to you too. To be clear: this is not a job title change. This is a change of both responsibilities and T&Cs.

[Cadbury]

I'm naturally suspicious of most things so I'd be careful.
I'd want written confirmation that nothing else changes.
I've heard of friends of friends that were 'offered' new contracts, signed them and thought nothing of it. 6 weeks later the company made redundancies and just let those people go without anything. The new contracts they signed put them back in the 2 month probation period as if they were a new employee, where they weren't entitled to anything.

[Rogerborg]

The fact that they didn't even mention money sounds like they reckon you're a soft touch. But then I'm a nasty, suspicious hobbit too.

Oh, and be very wary of being mind-tricked into doing it for a "trial period", with some vague non-promise that they'll see you right if and when it becomes permanent.
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[someotherguy]

If it were me, I'd either negotiate a payrise, or politely decline their oh-so-generous offer

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[Pete.]

If you used to work Saturdays and they accidentally changed your rota so you no longer work Saturdays why don't they just change your rota so that you work Saturdays again?
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[sensi5446]

I was in a very similar situation a few months back, was asked would I take a better job title for the same pay I actually do the job already plus more and cover the general manager when he's off(like this week) or out, but theres no way I'm taking on more responsibility without extra pay. Their argument was it would go in my favor on my CV plus I'm higher up the ladder, told them where to go and have now been told they will review my salary and contract in Dec but if they don't offer me at least an extra 3k Ill turn them down.

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[Pete.]

It's illegal for them to require you to work a double-shift anyway. If you think they are going to elbow you out through constructive dismissal try to get that in writing for ammunition.
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[Shaft]

This sounds like a company I used to work for.

If they decided your face didn't fit (which could happen if you'd been there for five minutes or five years) their favourite tactic was to move you sideways or slightly upwards, change your responsibilities, then kick you out when you, inevitably, don't perform.

I saw this happen many times, with people being shunted into jobs they were ill suited to, starting out full of themselves that they were climbing the greasy pole, then falling flat on their faces, with no way back.

I would be incredibly wary of this most generous offer, as others have said, there's nothing in it for you but anti social shifts and onerous tasks (I particularly don't like the keyholder/on call thing) and they get away without it costing them a copper coin.

I'd want a damn sight more than 25p an hour for that.
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