Best value, practical 'A2' bikes?

bikertomm · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Karma :

Hi all.

So, luckily enough for me I passed a month before the laws changed to the ghey mess that it is now.

Unfortunately a couple of my mates are now caught up in said ghey mess and going for their 'A2' licences.

I know there are subjects that have been done to death about A2 licence bikes and restrictions etc, and to be honest, I've taken no notice of them so far as I've had no need to!

1 of my mates keeps going on about all the usual plastic fantastics, ninja 250 ninja 300 ect..

I'm wondering if you oracles' of BCF have any suggestions.

I was of the opinion getting a 'real' (*IL4) bike under (96bhp?) and restricting it down would be the way to go value wise. Use it and sell it for about the same as you bought it kind of thing.

Has there been any advancements on what bikes are 'allowed' under the new pathetic frogspawn? Razz

E.g Old thundercat or fazer? Restricted to 40- something bhp?

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SQL · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Karma :

Fazer is the best in class
Bandit I have an quite like
MT-03 really fun

bikertomm · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Karma :

Cheers, completely forgot about bandits. Good cheap(er) bikes for what it will be compared to a ninja 250 etc.

What is the strict bhp rules regarding older bikes anyone know?

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zark · Trackday Trickster Joined: 18 Dec 2013 Karma :

My Fazer (FZS600) was restricted when i got it.

Lots of choices here... No idea how accurate their info is tho...

The Fazer was plenty revvy and fast enough in the half hour that i rode it before removing the washers.

Apparently

Age 19-20 - 47 bhp max: the A2 licence. This is where the rules become slightly complex. From the age of 19, you are permitted to take an A2 test (which must be taken on a bike of at least 395cc, with a power output of between 25kW/33bhp and 35kW/47bhp). If you don't already hold an A1 licence you will need to do a CBT beforehand, as always, and pass a theory test, before you take the practical test.

Upon passing, the rider is restricted to bikes with a limit of 35kW/47bhp and a power-to-weight ratio of no more than 0.2kW/0.26bhp per kg, for two years. The power-to-weight ratio is an important qualification because it makes drawing a distinction between 'can ride' and 'can't ride' more nuanced than a simple bhp cap. In real terms, it imposes a minimum weight of 175kg for any bike using the full 47bhp, dashing hopes of super-lightweight 250s making a mockery of the bhp limit.

It's relatively straightforward to restrict a bike, meaning you are not necessarily ruled out of riding the bike of your dreams - unless you are dreaming of anything 'more than twice' as powerful. Any bike originally making more than 94bhp is still out of reach of the A2 licence.

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P.addy · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Could just get around on an SV650. Sporty ish styling and alright power for the road. Unsure if Fazer is ok for A2 but could be a good bet.

Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

RD350 YPVS Thumbs Up

is that allowed?
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Vincent · Banned Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

RZ250 YPVS? There are a few around in the UK. Yamaha R1Z?
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.Chris. · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Karma :

Depends on how old you're willing to go. All of the first generation 600 sports would be suitable for restriction - the CBR600F1, GPZ/GPX600 and pre-foxeye FZR600 are all sub-94bhp and well over 175kg. Main problems are likely to be availability of non-shagged examples, and lack of appeal to dem yoot.
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