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PostPosted: 21:01 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do as yer mum says eh ?
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say it's the sole that's good on motorcycle footwear. They can help stop your foot being crushed and/or snapped. Imagine your foot on it's side, as if you're laid on the floor on your side. Now drop 200 kg onto your foot. That stiffer sole could reduce, if not prevent, that potential damage.

Amongst other benefits of specific boots.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shin protectors on my boots pretty much saved me from a fractured leg during a crash a couple of years back. Thumbs Up

So yeah, they're well worth it in my opinion.

Also, as Snoosnoo pointed out. Would you really want 200Kg of metal landing on your foot without having as much protection as possible?
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fidge wrote:
Being honest I don't really see why I 'need' motorcycle boots


By law you do not, so it's personal preference and personally I prefer to be able to rider a motorbike rather than sit in a wheel chair and admire one.

Fidge wrote:
what do you think (any alternatives) and convince me why I need them/some.


I think stay away from the ebay specials and try some on in your local bike shop or J&S.

And why should I or anyone else convince you to protect yourself, if you don't want to it's only you that suffers.

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I use a pair of RST Trachtech Evo's for commuting and overall protection and then have a budget alpinestar ankle boot for when I plan to walk around shops or be of the bike for a long period of time.

RST's are waterproof, offer very good overall protection, comfy and don't dent the bank to much upon purchase, very good value for money. Personally I'd consider a full boot a must for commuting or extended amount of time on the bike over an ankle boot.

Ankle boots are lightweight, offer some but not much protection and allow me to get off the bike and walk around without feeling like a spaceman.

Until I purchase a better pair of ankle boots my personal preference is with the RST's / full boot all day long. And even if I did purchase a better pair of ankle boots I still wouldn't consider them an all year round item.

I will add that if you intend to use an ankle boot all the time do invest in one that looks like a mini full boot regardless of fashion statement because it makes all the difference for overall comfort on a ride while on the bike, buy cheap buy twice as I found out with the alpinestars that I purchased. I intend to revisit and purchase a better pair of ankle boots once winters over, waste of money at this time of year for my intended use.

Oh and get one that does have a shift pad stitched in because isn't it a bitch to try and change gears without one.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fidge wrote:
Bike doesn't way 200kg Cool even if it did all the weight wouldn't be in one place. I know the longer boots that cover your shins are better but I wouldn't want to walk around college with them, not that I want to walk round with any.


I wouldn't have been doing much walking around without them.

At the end of the day, they're your feet/legs. You seem like you've already decided that there's no need for you to wear/buy them, so it would appear a little bit pointless for folks to bother giving you valid reasons as to why it would be beneficial.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some soppy sod came off his ped on the North Circular a while ago. He was wearing trainers when he came off.
He's probably still in plaster now, smashed his ankle up pretty well. There's a thread about it on the forum
somewhere with some nice x ray pics, good boots would have likely reduced the damage, maybe even prevented it.

I'm old and boring but even if I'm wearing kevlar jeans instead of leathers and a lightweight jacket,
I'll still always wear proper boots, and always some very decent gloves. Speaking from experience,
ankle injuries are a bitch, I broke mine long ago during a lads night in Laughing although not a bike related
injury, it still gives me aggro over 10 years later and in the big picture was only a fairly straight
forward break, just in an awkward spot. 10 years later it still occasionally just gives out on me
without warning or I'll get a sharp sudden pain down there.

But you sound like you know whats best so crack on matey. Thumbs Up But your mums got it right! And if you had
half the sense she has you'd know that some of the coll-unge will love a mean moody biker stomping
about in big boots. It's good to stand out, especially at college.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wear some Dr Martens, I did for years but then as my bikes got faster and I got more confident (read over-confident), I started falling off more and coughed up the dough for some proper boots after twisting my ankle at 25MPH!!! on my MT50 when I was 18 and struggled to walk for about a week.

To be fair, usually I'm fine when I crash, but I am almost always wearing full gear. My worst crash was at some stupid speed when green laning in the evening, I was flat out in 5th on my TTR, so about 60mph, and hit a ditch, got a wobble on and smashed into a gate that has always been open before, and has been since, I don't know why I'm so unlucky. I was wearing MX boots, but just some jeans and a hoody. I went flying down the gravel track, no one knew I was out there, I was losing the sun, and I had ripped the whole of my left leg to shreds and smashed my left knee cap up and out of place, it plays up on me now still.

I then had to pick the bike up and continue riding off-road and then the 10 miles to the hospital. They then came out with a massive needle that made me feel ill, numbed my whole leg and then brought out a load of kitchen scouring pads, about three of them and set to work on the mud in my leg before moving the knee cap into place. Sick Pale

Unrelated but when I crashed my Micra into a wall at 70mph and rolled it, I broke my right foot and I can't wear new boots now, I have to break them in loads, and can only manage about 15 minutes at a time. I can't wear thick socks in my shoes either because of the pain, and I like thick socks. Crying or Very sad It was only about five months ago but it's the only break that still plays up.

But I mean, how likely are you to fall off a motorcycle and hit a foot funny? Not very, so just stick with some sandals, socks underneath if it's cold out. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you even googled "motorcycle foot injuries" to see what you might be protecting yourself from?

Because as a died-in-the-wool trainers wearer, I am not in a position to lecture you.

But I think it would be sensible to see what injuries you MIGHT inflict upon yourself if you don't wear protective boots.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boots do the same as gloves and protect what they are covering.
Some boots have added protection to help prevent crush injury and or over extension which will rip bones, tendons and ligaments out.
Feet take a long time to heal (No Pun) due to reduced blood flow so protection is a big yes.

Boots are cheaper than weeks/months off work.

But then you go into the style and quality of the boots you choose. Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not do what a couple of mates did when I was at college and keep a pair of trainers in the college class and then swap over when you get there? That way you don't need to worry about wearing motorcycle boots all day.

I wear Richa Ratchets now, I can't remember what my last pair were but they cost me about £60 and survived three years of abuse, I used to wear them all the time, off-road in them crash in them and then one day the sole fell off, I glued it back on again twice before realising that they were so worn out I might as well wear trainers, as they weren't offering any extra support any more. Laughing

But that's £20 a year for practically daily use. Which is roughly 20 pence a day. I can live with that cost. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Have you even googled "motorcycle foot injuries" to see what you might be protecting yourself from?


Good call. Thumbs Up

I was in the fortunate position of working in A&E at Nobles hospital on the IoM for a number of years before I had even considered riding a motorbike. Apart from treating the racers themselves, there's also all the visitors who crash too. This gave me some pretty good first hand experience of what injuries can be sustained when things go tits up. Which is why I bought all the gear from boots to lid before ever sitting on a bike. It's also why I won't ride anywhere without it.

Admittedly, it can be a pain in the backside putting it all on and off at times but, sods law being what it is, it'll be the one time you decide not to wear it "cause I'm only going to the shops" that the worst will happen.

So buy the right gear and use it would be my advice.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick your trainers in a backpack. It only takes a minute to change into them.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 08 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm waiting for the NEC bike show so I can try some on and find a good deal, but I'm leaning toward a pair of
these.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sidi-ST-Motorcycle-Boots-Black-/181058782984?var=&hash=item2a27f1c708
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 09 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I'm waiting for the NEC bike show so I can try some on and find a good deal, but I'm leaning toward a pair of
these.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sidi-ST-Motorcycle-Boots-Black-/181058782984?var=&hash=item2a27f1c708


I nearly bought them but actually got a better deal on the Vortices (the next model up), last year—they've been great and won't disappoint.

Incidentally, I had a mate half ride into me the other week and ended up taking a fair portion of the weight of his bike on my leg while trying to stop us falling over. It wasn't anything serious but proper boots saved a bit of bruising at best and a few days of limping at worst.

I've also come off a few times in my dainese boots, which now have scuffs and wearing on the ankle protection—I'd much rather that plastic was worn down than my ankle itself!
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 09 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I'm not sure if you are that bothered about motorcycle specific boots, I'd suggest go down to your local shop. I started with some no names from J&S, with my jeans or chinos (yeah I'm so cool) I could walk around uni fine and they looked just like boots.

These days you can get trainer looking things, TCX make them I think, even A* do a set. I'd think a pair of standard walking boots or something is better than trainers. I worse such boots commuting 8 miles each way on my CG last year.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 09 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason you need motorcycle boots is to keep your old dear happy. That is important and the only reason you need, especially if she's paying for them. I had to call my mum when I arrived at a rally or run destination (one she knew I was going to anyway), well into my 20's and had been living by myself for years. You only really get to stop once you're married, that's how Mums work.

I wear British army assault boots on the bike, have done for years.

Comfy to wear and walk about in but provide pretty good ankle support and double-skinned leather for excellent abrasion resistance. If you wear through them in a slide, the rest of your leg is toast anyway. Pretty waterproof too.

I find them a good compromise between motorcycle specific boots and everyday footwear.

How much is "some" money? Are we talking alt-berg territory? Because their boots tick all the boxes if you want to walk around in comfortable bike boots not looking like a power ranger.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 09 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


I wear British army assault boots on the bike, have done for years.

Comfy to wear and walk about in but provide pretty good ankle support and double-skinned leather for excellent abrasion resistance. If you wear through them in a slide, the rest of your leg is toast anyway. Pretty waterproof too.

I find them a good compromise between motorcycle specific boots and everyday footwear.


This pretty much, except I prefer the German ones even if they are a bit heavier.
As much as anything you want something well up your ankles just to keep draughts out and waterproofness is desirable even if it's not actually raining.

I wear the same boots 9 times in 10 going anywhere because they are seriously comfortable and supportive even to run in.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 09 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got some £70 unbranded "race style" boots. They were extremely comfy, very supportive, and waterproof. Only problem was that after about 14 months I have now worn a hole in the left sole. Might be because more movement on the gear changing foot (as the right hand one is ok).

In any case, I would recommend this type of boot:https://www.twowheel.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rst-fusion-297x300.jpg

, purely because of the ankle and shin protection. I was reversing out through a narrow gate a while ago and my bike came to an abrupt halt. When I looked down, my boot was sandwiched between the footpeg and the gate, and I hadn't even felt it. That alone was enough to make me glad I had sturdy boots.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 09 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doggone, can you let me have a link to where you can get them, please. My fella said he used to like wearing them, and I'd quite like to buy him some as a surprise present.
Edit: It's alright, I googled it ... LOL Brick Wall
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