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baderlfc
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 11 Sep 2015    Post subject: CBR600F, Daytona 600/650 or alternative for first big bike? Reply with quote

Just passed my mod 2, absolutely over the moon! a major relief after 2 previous fails..

Now onto the fun part.. what bike?

I like the injection versions of the cbr600f, I also love the daytona 600/650 models.. looking at approx £2k or thereabouts.. any input or suggestions?
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 11 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No help whatsoever, but I always liked the now rare never popular Triumph Daytona 650. When I bought my first new 600 it wasn't available, but I reckon it would have been as good a bike as the Ninja A1 636cc overall.

I wouldn't have a carb fed alloy framed CBR600 if it was free though. The sport Fi model might have been much different/better though?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 12 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
No help whatsoever, but I always liked the now rare never popular Triumph Daytona 650. When I bought my first new 600 it wasn't available, but I reckon it would have been as good a bike as the Ninja A1 636cc overall.

I wouldn't have a carb fed alloy framed CBR600 if it was free though. The sport Fi model might have been much different/better though?


Daytona 650 is my first choice.. If I can find one that is
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 14 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the bmw f800s,cracking fun bikes apparently and will do a bit of everything.Also,belt driven so no chain maintenance and look like nothing else.Dare to be different.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 14 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMW is not cheap, even the rotax F800 series is expensive.

My suggestion is, go and have a look at the CBR or Daytona you like. The first motorcycle is just about looks. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 05:39 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR600F (02 onwards) is the best bike I've ever owned. Far more practical than the Daytona 650 (crap tank range??). I thoroughly recommend them as a first sports bike as well as a commuter. They can easily tour as well. Feckin A. I want another one now.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run some insurance quoutes, from experience CBRs can be very expensive to insure if you're new and don't have a garage.

There are the usual other options - Fazer, Diversion/XJ6, SV650, etc. All will be cheaper, quick enough for hooning and slow enough for commuting.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given you have nothing for comparison I'd go for whichever is the cheapest overall, or if money isn't a great concern then whichever appeals the most. Base it on things you'll notice rather than figures on a piece of paper or whatever.

Most people, certainly somebody buying their first bike, really aren't going to notice a few extra BHP at the top end, the adjustibility of the suspension, or a slightly quicker turn in.

What you will notice is the price and how it looks, and to a lesser extent things like MPG and tank range.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Most people, certainly somebody buying their first bike, really aren't going to notice a few extra BHP at the top end, the adjustibility of the suspension, or a slightly quicker turn in.


Most of people won't notice a thing, even after 10 years of biking. Yes, people that ride bikes can tell the differences between different engine layouts, but that's about that. Suspension wise, it's the best to keep it in the factory setting (fully adjustable suspension is rather pointless), unless you are an suspension engineer and you know what you are doing. You wouldn't believe how crap some bikes feel after the ''I saw a MotoGP race last night'' owners fiddle with the suspension.

Extra BHP is also something the vast majority won't notice. That being said, do as I advised you before.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: CBR600F, Daytona 600/650 or alternative for first big bi Reply with quote

baderlfc wrote:
.. what bike?

I like the injection versions of the cbr600f, I also love the daytona 600/650 models.. looking at approx £2k or thereabouts.. any input or suggestions?


The most important bit: try few bikes before you chose any model. Liking bike and position is a very personal thing. You do not buy a jacket before you try few why you will spend 2K before you try few bikes? Based on some dodgy reviews, paper specs and expert advice from BCF Laughing

Honda is nice quality bike. You cannot get good low miles less than 10 years old CBR600F for less than £3k.

I would not touch Daytona with a barge pole. It is high revs sport bike which will be real pain in the ass for any commuting. Plus a lot of reliability issues.

Best value for money all around bikes within your £2k budget will be Suzuki SV650S and Yamaha FZS600.

You can find good red low milage 2007 SV650 for about £1650 like this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SV-650-/131583870681?hash=item1ea30286d9

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE0NDA=/z/iTUAAOSwyQtV1Khm/$_57.JPG

Or this Fazer:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-YAMAHA-FZS-600-BLUE-1-OWNER-FROM-NEW-ONLY-16-000MLS-GOOD-CONDITION-/252086159786?hash=item3ab18189aa

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzAwWDQwMA==/z/r0UAAOSwgQ9V5Yjn/$_12.JPG
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: CBR600F, Daytona 600/650 or alternative for first big bi Reply with quote

Val wrote:

The most important bit: try few bikes before you chose any model. Liking bike and position is a very personal thing. You do not buy a jacket before you try few why you will spend 2K before you try few bikes? Based on some dodgy reviews, paper specs and expert advice from BCF Laughing

Honda is nice quality bike. You cannot get good low miles less than 10 years old CBR600F for less than £3k.

I would not touch Daytona with a barge pole. It is high revs sport bike which will be real pain in the ass for any commuting. Plus a lot of reliability issues.

Best value for money all around bikes within your £2k budget will be Suzuki SV650S and Yamaha FZS600.

You can find good red low milage 2007 SV650 for about £1650 like this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SV-650-/131583870681?hash=item1ea30286d9

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE0NDA=/z/iTUAAOSwyQtV1Khm/$_57.JPG

Or this Fazer:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-YAMAHA-FZS-600-BLUE-1-OWNER-FROM-NEW-ONLY-16-000MLS-GOOD-CONDITION-/252086159786?hash=item3ab18189aa

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzAwWDQwMA==/z/r0UAAOSwgQ9V5Yjn/$_12.JPG


Depends what you want, commuter, fun bike, Sunday dry only ride.

Me being a Triumph fan,

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Daytona-650-2005-yellow-beautiful-bike-/121757309567?hash=item1c594d1a7f

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PostPosted: 19:31 - 15 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: CBR600F, Daytona 600/650 or alternative for first big bi Reply with quote

I had a CBR600F 2011 onwards. I would say it is a brilliant first big bike, it's the bike I properly learnt to ride on and gain my confidence.

I say go sit on them... one will feel better...
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 17 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insurance isn't an issue. every bike i've put in so far has come back less than £200 a year apart from the gsxr 750 which was £260 and thats a big for a couple of years time anyway.

I was set on an sv650 until i saw the daytona and realised the cbr600f's were in my price range.

Ive sat on a cbr600f, 2 guys in work got them and it seems a nice riding position but i need to test one.. the daytona I cant find any local.

I did sit on a new gsxr600 in bridgend suzuki and loved it.. so with 0% finance and the other extra incentives at the moments thats a serious consideration.

Bike will be used for a mix of commuting in nice weather and pleasure riding evenings and weekends (again nice weather).. i got a boring golf diesel for those wet days!
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 17 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and I did my test on an 08 fazer 600 and I liked it.. but not enough to buy im afraid, didn't do it for me and I'd prefer a slightly less upright ride.
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