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| smegballs |
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Almost rear ended a sportsbike as he cut across me to turn left riding my pushbike the other day. It'd be easy to say ''i couldn't see the indicators cos they had direct sunlight on them (which was true)'' but truthfully I should have been on the ball. I didn't even clock there was a motorcycle there until he turned across my path.....  |
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| Rogerborg |
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Oh, so when I binned it a few months back I wasn't just being a dozy twat, I had contracted Lost Focus Syndrome. Well, now I feel much better about myself. Gosh, me, with a Syndrome, just like the celebrities get.
Are there support groups for survivors of Lost Focus Syndrome? Can I get it treated on the NHS or do I have to go private? If I can identify who I caught The Syndrome from, is there blame, and a claim? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 Posted: 10:52 - 17 Sep 2015 Post subject: Re: The Syndrome - Losing Focus While Riding |
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| deadwolf wrote: |
This article might be worth a read. Pretty sure many of us have had similar experiences. Am always wary of getting 'into the zone' nowadays, especially on long straights where it's easy to just zone out and start thinking about how nice and perfect everything is...that's when you know it's all about to go tits up  |
People talk about being 'in the zone' when riding fast on twisty roads. I think that is when my concentration is at it's best, and I notice every little detail. It's when I slow down and relax on easier roads that the mind is more likely to wander, and I have had to say to myself, "pay attention now" once or twice in those situations. But I don't think I have ever crashed because of 'zoning out', thinking about the crashes I have had and being honest with myself (that's not to say my crashes haven't been my fault!).
Caught myself looking at the scenery on a Lake District high pass the other day and had to do the 'pay attention' bit once. That could have ended in tears!
| Sun Wukong wrote: | But I never zone out when I have music on. |
I find that when listening to music whilst riding, if I really need to concentrate particularly hard - negotiating heavy traffic for instance - afterwards I find I don't know what tracks have been playing - seems I zone out the music when I need to, without thinking about it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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The guy in that article is mostly on about racing and sems to be implying something to do with karma and over-confidence morethan the commonly observed effect of doing a journey and having no recollection of parts of it
I think people ride perfectly well when "zoned out" on the road.
Everything is working as it should, your brain is just not laying the events down in your short term memory. Your reactions and reflexes are exactly the same, you just have no memory of doing them.
I could compare it to the short and long term memory because the same happens. Say you go through a traffic light on your way into work. Was it on red today? I bet you can answer. Was it on red a week last Thursday? I bet you have no idea because your brain didn't see fit to put it down into long term memory BUT you know you did the journey, so you passed the traffic light and I'm sure you dealt with it as appropriate.
Your brain is being selective about the information it retains. Just because you don't remember sections of the ride, doesn't mean you didn't do them or react as normal during them. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| rubyhorse2 |
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a lot of riding/driving is memory based.
i think the post recently in the new biker section relates to this a little in that new bikers struggle to take everything in when learning, clutch, brakes, throttle, observation, etc. Those with experience, all this happens pretty much via memory.
So when 'zoning out' we are still doing all this, well we hope so hey
Got to admit, and this mostly happens in the car, i have got places and suddenly thought i dont remember the last few mins of driving as i've been thinking or talking to someone. |
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Just sounds like over-confidence to me. ____________________ My Flickr |
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The only time I lose focus is when the fit birds are out in the sun.
Tinted visor comes into it's own then.  ____________________ 07' Honda Hornet now full powaah! My guide on performing an oil change! |
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| Quote: | Losing focus syndrome... |
Look, the new ''target fixation'' type of excuse.
The new soap opera, called a Syndrome.
Ep1: Hey Mike, you are so crap at riding. - I know Jeremy, I've got a syndrome. *sympathetic/dramatic music*
Ep2: I've heard you crashed your bike the other day, target fixation? - I wish it was so simple, I've got the LFS, also known as the losing focus syndrome...*dramatic music*
EP3: Two lads on wheelchairs: well, nobody's perfect, at least you won't be getting any trouble with the LFS anymore, or will you?*dramatic music*  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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| Sun Wukong |
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Hmmm? LFS you say?..... nope, not happening to me when I`m on a bike.
I value my life to much, and I`m all soft and squidgy, so roads, kerbs, and other road users hurt when I hit them.
In a nice warm comfy car, I can understand it, and maybe, possibly, I might? be guilty of LFS once long ago  ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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| Sun Wukong wrote: | | bikertomm wrote: | The only time I lose focus is when the fit birds are out in the sun.
Tinted visor comes into it's own then.  |
God yeh, "gash crash"
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I have to reply just so I can type GASH CRASH and imprint the words on my memory. GASH CRASH.
GASH CRASH
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Your brain is being selective about the information it retains. Just because you don't remember sections of the ride, doesn't mean you didn't do them or react as normal during them. |
This, if you have to react to something, anything a leaf inthe wind even, you remember it, just because you don't remember it don't mean it didn't happpen - has I've being told many times.... The morning after..
It's being said, but auto pilot is probably the safest place to be, not processing anything high level but everytthing given over to low level, trying to think about hitting keys on the keyboard.... Mistakes, think about hitting cords on the guitar, you drop them. Even so I say this sometimes I make a point of going a different way just so it's different.. remember leaningng to ride, all those controls and amplified reactions, now do I zone out when I jump on abd ride, kinda, I don't need to "think" about gears and brakes and revs and corners I just give all that nonsense over to my low level auto brain.. leave my higher creative brain free for.. other things like multi tasking to avoid GCS "gash cash syndrome".. |
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I can safely say I have never crashed whilst perving on c-dug's or Doovy's or Chris-Red's collective arses.
Or Gerry's.
Or YenPowells.
Any others I have missed? Bound to be.
Anyway. I was not not-paying-attention
I. Was. Very. Carefully. Focussed.
(just not on the road)  ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Has bcf even got pop up ads?
I just get those ones at the top and bottom.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 350 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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