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PostPosted: 21:12 - 19 Sep 2015    Post subject: Japanese knot weed? Reply with quote

Went to go look at a house.

The estate agent then said Japanese knot weed. BUT the council is dealing with it and they're going to finish the job.

Barge pole?
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 19 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: Japanese knot weed? Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Barge pole?


Depends on what the Council do.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 19 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tiniest bit of root left next door or even under concrete could take off again.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 19 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the council doing and what guarantee are they giving that the job will be complete and it won't return?

No thanks. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 19 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 metres down and 3 metres radius around the growth. Anything less and they haven't got it.

EDIT: My apologies, it's 2m down and up to 7m radius.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 19 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a colleague who acuired propery with this problem.
Despite so-called treatments the stuff still comes.
The presence of the weed is "on record" leading to massive problems with insurance and ---- he cannot sell the place

LONG barge pole

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PostPosted: 00:12 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:15 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Balance the price against how close it is to the structures. It's not like there's a surfeit of cheap properties out there.

Insurance, OK, but if the council declares that you're knotweed free, aren't you knotweed free, even if you aren't?
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say Japanese Knot Weed but as you can never believe anything an estate agent says, I wonder what they're knot telling you. Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I buy more houses than your average bear.
I wouldn't touch it.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I buy more houses than your average bear.

Black, brown or polar?
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

is an absolute nightmare to get rid of, leave it a lone if possible
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
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I buy more houses than your average bear.

Black, brown or polar?

Oh, definitely Polar. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've dealt with it as contractors on large estates where they have forests of it 30m across.

It's prohibitively expensive to dig out and dispose of, which big developers do if they want to use the land fast. We nuke it with systemic herbicide both by spraying and stem injection and our first application made the biggest difference, an 85% reduction. Year-on-year we've returned for less than half a day when the plants are waist height and attacked it again - safe to say it's nearly knocked on the head and fairly cost effectively.

It just takes a few years to deal with. Depends how that goes down with insurers Rolling Eyes

Didn't know about it staying 'on record' though - any excuse for insurers to pull people's trousers down. If it's been dealt with properly it's not coming back, unless you live next to a river or something.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who had to google what Japanese Knot Weed is??? Question
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
grr666 wrote:
I buy more houses than your average bear.

Black, brown or polar?


Koala?
(Call it a bear and watch the Auzzies squirm Matey)
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nash GT wrote:
is an absolute nightmare to get rid of, leave it a lone if possible


Or if you cannot get it a lone. Try to get it a mort gage. Razz

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PostPosted: 13:24 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Ste wrote:

Black, brown or polar?


Koala?
(Call it a bear and watch the Auzzies squirm Matey)


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PostPosted: 19:06 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that developers knock thousands of the price of sites that have it should be a good indication of how much it costs to get rid of it completely. As a previous poster said, it takes years to completely eradicate it and like you will always have it at the back of your mind. Don't bother - or if you really like the house offer bottom dollar to reflect the infestation...
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it because it is Japanese ?
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
The fact that developers knock thousands of the price of sites that have it should be a good indication of how much it costs to get rid of it completely. As a previous poster said, it takes years to completely eradicate it and like you will always have it at the back of your mind. Don't bother - or if you really like the house offer bottom dollar to reflect the infestation...


I've taken the house out of consideration completely. A professional removal service is £2500+ for the size of the patch (which appears to be all dead and behind a big bush).

I asked around my dad's friends and they say you can kill it with fire long slow burning fires. But the things keep coming back after 4-5 months and it's way too much bother tbh. Reading around you even have to burn the ashes of JKN...

That stuff is like the T-1000.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
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The fact that developers knock thousands of the price of sites that have it should be a good indication of how much it costs to get rid of it completely. As a previous poster said, it takes years to completely eradicate it and like you will always have it at the back of your mind. Don't bother - or if you really like the house offer bottom dollar to reflect the infestation...


I've taken the house out of consideration completely. A professional removal service is £2500+ for the size of the patch (which appears to be all dead and behind a big bush).

I asked around my dad's friends and they say you can kill it with fire long slow burning fires. But the things keep coming back after 4-5 months and it's way too much bother tbh. Reading around you even have to burn the ashes of JKN...

That stuff is like the T-1000.


It is not as bad as the Myth Meisters make out.

It can be eradicated and lenders have been encouraged to cease putting people off.
It should be no more that treating any other defect. Damp, Structural defects etc.
If treated according to recommendation there should be no problem.

But £2.5k onto the price is a big consideration.

But also £2.5 on a property selling for £750k is probably fcuk all to worry about.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
I wonder what they're knot telling you. Shocked
What you did there, I saw it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking Just a thought? , but have you ever seen JKW in a regularly maintained garden?
Maybe weekly cutting/mowing/strimming will eventually kill it out?

It starts by establishing it`s self in the more remote parts of the garden and spreads.
Translocated/hormonal/systemic herbicides will be more affective than contact herbicides.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 20 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can cut it with a scythe or shears but you mustn't mow it or strim it, you'll just distribute it over a wider area doing that. Otherwise, you're right - you COULD keep it as an ornamental plant and control it's growth with cultivation but it will spread if left un-checked because we don't have it's natural parasite native to the UK and you'll be very unpopular with your neighbours if you do it. It's illegal to allow it to spread off your property.
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