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How to stay dry?
Get a refund and buy a new suit
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Waterproof the existing suit
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Buy an oversuit
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Do something else... explain below
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: How to stay dry? Reply with quote

I've got an Alpinestars Andes suit (this jacket and these trousers).

It's ok... but it does let in water on days like today. The main problem areas seem to be my forearms (the water isn't getting in between the glove and the sleeve, it's simply coming through the jacket), and the crotch area (which is a real bastard, as it soaks the crotch of my jeans underneath, making it look like I've had a little accident Embarassed). The crotch thing is especially annoying, as my shirt then wicks up the moisture during the day, and I get a steadily rising line of damp up my torso Mad

What are my options?

- Try to get a refund and buy a new suit? I was tempted to buy a bonded Goretex Rukka suit first time around, but balked at the price. I'm not sure A* would give me a refund either...

- Waterproof the existing suit? Perhaps with something like Nikwax? I'm not sure how effective that will be, since it seems the moisture is getting more through the "lycra-like" parts than the "textile-like" parts of the suit.

- Buy an oversuit? If so, which one?

- Or do something else...?

tl;dr, how can I stay dry?
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have waterproofs, always worked fine. Today they didnt, today is the worst I have ridden in - rain wise.

I should have worked from home - so I clicked 'other'.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
I have waterproofs, always worked fine.


Do you have a waterproof oversuit/rainsuit or a normal "waterproof" textile suit?

A rainsuit seems like it might work, but I don't want to put on another layer just for the whole lot to end up fucking soaked through.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richa 2 piece. Jacket was fine, gots me a wet special place *points down*. Generic waterproof gloves failed massively too. I have a 1 piece suit but hate putting it on and getting out of it too. It is as big as I dared get but still so awkward when you have leathers on.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richa Typhoon rain suit.

Sportsbikeshop have black and fluro, cost about 40 quid. Keep you dry, provide humour for people watching you put it on over your other gear...
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an oversuit for my trip around Scotland. Was just a cheap Lidl one but it was brilliant. I got a size large (I'm a medium in all clothes, ever) so no issues getting it over my bike gear and it wasnt too baggy.

Also did a great job of keeping me warm as it kept the wind off.

One downside - its an all-in-one suit and doesnt fold up very small. I have a Hornet which has zero underseat storage, so if it took the suit it had to go in a tankbag
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had ‘waterproof’ Alpinestars textiles. Like you, I had leaking at the elbow joint and crotch. Wearing a one-piece is a total pain in the arse over textiles so I’d recommend buying a cheap mac and trousers on ebay/Amazon. Just put them on when the rain looks particularly heavy and they should provide the extra protection for the arm and crotch.

I don’t think Nikwax works, there are threads on here saying it’s useless.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 hours of heavy rain last week in France and I stayed dry apart from my hands

Altberg Roadrunner boots
Richa Typhoon jacket
Ex-Army Gortex trousers
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: How to stay dry? Reply with quote

Surbitom wrote:

- Or do something else...?

tl;dr, how can I stay dry?


One option is to buy Patagonia Torrentshell Rain Pants. You can wear them easily as underpants.

https://www.patagonia.com/eu/enGB/product/mens-torrentshell-waterproof-rain-pants?p=83811-0
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: How to stay dry? Reply with quote

Surbitom wrote:
I've got an Alpinestars Andes suit (this jacket and these trousers).

At those prices, I'd be getting a refund. The money we pay for some scraps of plastic that don't perform as advertised. Brick Wall

I'm currently using "Regatta" brand generic waterproofs. 2 piece. Trousers came with bleedin' pocket flaps that face forwards, so I wear them back to front. The jacket I wear under whatever leather, cordura or tweed I fancy wearing that day. That takes the impact out of the water, and I've yet to have a drop get through.

If I ever buy motorcycle specific clothing again, it'll be either budget, or Gore-Textm branded.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 1st bike gear was a dianese textile suit and 6+ years down the line its still fantastic in the wet.

even survived scotland where it rained for the entire day. 250+ miles later out in it and the only thing that was damp were my cuffs where my gloves that were tucked inside the jacket, were soaked (alpinestars 365s)

for every day i have some waterproofs i keep in the boot of the bike so if i've got my kevlar jeans on and that i can chuck those on to get home but if im out in real bad weather the textiles are fantastic.

personally, if they're meant to be waterproof and they're not i'd complain and get a decent set that is.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Re: How to stay dry? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
At those prices, I'd be getting a refund. The money we pay for some scraps of plastic that don't perform as advertised. Brick Wall


Frustrating, isn't it? Even those expensive brands that some folks say keep them dry seem to have others who will say they didn't work. And meanwhile, the prices just go up and up.

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I'm currently using "Regatta" brand generic waterproofs. 2 piece. Trousers came with bleedin' pocket flaps that face forwards, so I wear them back to front. The jacket I wear under whatever leather, cordura or tweed I fancy wearing that day. That takes the impact out of the water, and I've yet to have a drop get through.


So far, I have also found this to be the most effective solution, with the added advantage that bike gear slips easily over it, so no struggling to get into a rain suit.

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If I ever buy motorcycle specific clothing again, it'll be either budget, or Gore-Textm branded.


Got a pair of A* Gore-Tex gloves - not waterproof! Rolling Eyes Total bleedin lottery.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

all in one oversuit, just a cheapo one, works perfect.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it's water getting 'in' or is it water that cant get 'out'.

Keeping dry (in functional comfort) will cost you more than £500 for shelltex/Goretex garments.

You can wear prastic over-suits etc. but you will sweat and if the sweat can't get out you will get wet.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Are you sure it's water getting 'in' or is it water that cant get 'out'.

Keeping dry (in functional comfort) will cost you more than £500 for shelltex/Goretex garments.

You can wear prastic over-suits etc. but you will sweat and if the sweat can't get out you will get wet.


With the gloves I mentioned, it's definitely water getting in. They're a lightweight glove, not particularly warm - I bought them for those occasional days in summer when it rains ( Laughing Laughing Crying or Very sad ) but is warm. The gear I now wear under the bike stuff is breathable and works well - I don't get damp from sweat with it.

It only takes a couple of stitches to be out of place with any of this, and that's the water resistance compromised, so I guess it can happen with any brand. Trouble is, I don't remember where I got the gloves, or whether I have a receipt buried somewhere; otherwise, I'd take them back and settle, in the first instance, for a replacement of the same.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
Richa Typhoon rain suit.

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the thing folded up in its pocket to your bike. But it is not a waist strap as some people think. Unless of course you have the
build of a Japanese prisoner of war.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedPanda wrote:

I don’t think Nikwax works, there are threads on here saying it’s useless.


I tried the spray on Nikwax and it seems to have done near enough bugger all. Cheap Oxford jacket though. That might be a factor. But then, if it was waterproof to begin with...
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

KnightsFall wrote:
RedPanda wrote:

I don’t think Nikwax works, there are threads on here saying it’s useless.


I tried the spray on Nikwax and it seems to have done near enough bugger all. Cheap Oxford jacket though. That might be a factor. But then, if it was waterproof to begin with...


You do not use Nikwax on dirty jacket do you? Because it works fine for me on a clean washed jacket.

And it wears off gradually for few months. That the reason I have stopped using it too much hassle.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking, once upon a time, at that drystar suit but really couldn't trust it because it didn't have goretex in the name.

I'd be demanding my money back, in the name it says drystar and WP, it doesn't keep you dry, looking like a star therefore isn't WP.

I found a IXS Goretex jacket on ebay for 90 quid in as new condition. I would suggest looking for similar items.

I have then Hein Gericke goretex trousers, which have always remained waterproof. I also have some Richa Goretex gloves, which have only been wet from sitting in a room while wet, as the water slowly evaporates, and can begin to evaporate through the Gtex lining.

I ALSO have a RST one piece rain suit too for over my leathers. That kept me dry riding through to wales for a full day so gets my double thumbs up. I managed to get it on at the side of a road on a bench in a minute, so it's not too bad. Give it a practise run at home before you venture out.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using Goretex/Shelltex for years and I never get 'wet'.

The exposure time is a serious consideration for waterproof gear. If you only do a 30min commute then cheap shit may be perfik but for a long 1hr+ ride then cheap isn't cheerful.

I have also had to wear cheap prastic 'waterproofs' for work and suffered the consequences.
The Goretex work gear I wear is a million times better.

You will certainly get some water in as it is impossible to be water-tight without being airtight and those suits cost more. vvv
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goretex

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PostPosted: 14:32 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one of these for torrential rain:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400656065921

It's great and I stay bone dry.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 22 Sep 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way I have found to stay dry is dont go for a ride in the rain. Works every time.
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