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zark
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Blood Bike Volunteering? Reply with quote

So a quick search shows nothing recent here at about Blood Bikes. (Apart from this one and one other. But nothing recent)

After browsing the couriering thread and thinking - 'i enjoy riding, but couriering is too much effort for too little reward' i thought about what else i could do to justify spending more time on the bike - or even making beter use of the time i do spend on it.

So blood biking - i get it's a charity that collects "stuff" and volunteers that take it from one place to another OBO the NHS. Probably overnight. Probably when it's raining.

Does anyone do it/has done it? There's also no group in my local area according to the website - so is it worth even looking at?

I get the whole - 'wannabe 999 riders' thing and that doesn't particularly interest me, though additional bike assessment/training might (depending on cost)

So,

TL;DR - blood bikes - talk to me.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently if you do it you're actually evil...



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PostPosted: 11:59 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was thinking about doing it myself a while back. You'll need a bike that can carry their top-box with the blood in it. Its a rewarding job and you get to meet some good people. You'll be on call though so you'll need to have a reliable signal.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's no local group, I imagine you'd want to talk to your local trust or hospital about it first and see if they're even interested.


Motorhate wrote:
Was thinking about doing it myself a while back. [...] Its a rewarding job and you get to meet some good people.

You'd think.

Motorhate wrote:
You'll need a bike that can carry their top-box with the blood in it.

Awaits sickpup. Pass the popcorn
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started to look at the local one here, but you need an advanced qualification (ILM thingy) so ruled it out for me
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked into it locally, they provide the bike, you have to have IAMS cert, and a white helmet. They prefer you to be able to garage the bike while in your possession.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGs1 wrote:
Only moral faggots and a saddo cunts do voluntary work that is just my opinion of course.


Or just decent people who would like to help others?

Surely being a complete mong you must have had volunteers help you with things you find difficult like brushing your teeth or not shitting all over yourself?
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once visited the SERV stand at bike show in London.

The guy on the stand couldn't have been more miserable if he tried. My friend I was with used to ride for what was Essex Ambulance Service, had is RoSPA and IAM but the guy was just so disinterested in drumming up business/interest/support.

Gave up trying to make conversation/show an interest.

From what we leaned, you ride your own bike and be expected to get a call in the middle of the night.

Requirements for SERV South London & Surrey.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGs1 wrote:
Probably chuck it somewhere on one of my CV's


Which CV though?

Bodyguard? Bricklayer? Garden wall demolition expert? Mad skillz GP rider? Spy? International playboy?
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LustyLew wrote:
Once visited the SERV stand at bike show in London.

The guy on the stand couldn't have been more miserable if he tried. My friend I was with used to ride for what was Essex Ambulance Service, had is RoSPA and IAM but the guy was just so disinterested in drumming up business/interest/support.

Gave up trying to make conversation/show an interest.

From what we leaned, you ride your own bike and be expected to get a call in the middle of the night.

Requirements for SERV South London & Surrey.


Must admit the guys I spoke to seemed OK, different area completely, friendly and willing to chat. I suspect the requirements vary from area to area, as they are not nationwide organisations, just local groups of volunteers.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="bladeblaster"]
LustyLew wrote:
... I suspect the requirements vary from area to area, as they are not nationwide organisations, just local groups of volunteers.


Different groups may have different rules.

As a general rule, you won't be able to use your own vehicle.
All groups that I am aware of have one or more dedicated
blood bikes. These are insured for this particular use and
have the necessary markings, lights and rack for carrying
a standard blood or breast milk pack. The packs are sealed,
insulated and a lot bigger than you might expect.

The insurer will probably insist that all riders
will have advanced training and hold an advanced
qualification like RoSPA or IAM.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LustyLew wrote:
Once visited the SERV stand at bike show in London.

The guy on the stand couldn't have been more miserable if he tried.

Joined to ride around going "nee-naww, nee-naww" inside his lid, got given a tin to rattle. Sad hero.

I have no problems with folk doing it while funding it off their own backs. When it turns into a full fat chaaaaridy trying to fund itself with more chuggers than riders I do start to question whether it's crossed a line - especially if they're mostly ferrying patient notes around.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorhate wrote:
Was thinking about doing it myself a while back. [...] Its a rewarding job and you get to meet some good people.

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You'd think.

[quote="Motorhate"]You'll need a bike that can carry their top-box with the blood in it.

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Awaits sickpup. Pass the popcorn


Work commitments stop me from doing it. I'd be up for doing it otherwise. They even put you through the DSA Enhanced Rider Assessment as part of the job.

https://www.servkent.co.uk/support-us-sponsor-join/volunteer
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My local group prefer you to use your own bike; there are two marked up ones, but you have to have done at least 10 duties on your own bike, commit to doing at least 3 per month and be between 30 and 70 to be allowed to use them.

Regardless, you need to have a current IAM/RoSPA qualification, be a member of the relevant advanced group and be rechecked every three years. Plus have held a full licence for at least two years, have no more than 3 points on it and do some specific SERV training.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

All those hoops to jump through, when the alternative is slinging a pile of patient notes at Nardo from Cheepy Cabs.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Awaits sickpup. Pass the popcorn

+1
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there an option to shag nurses? I'd need quite a juicy reward if I was going to spend 2 nights per month helping the Tories to cut the NHS budget. That's what this service is all about. If the hospitals had enough money they'd pay couriers. The last time I was a courier I carried small blood boxes with samples in them, for blood tests I suppose. Our client was St Georges Hospital in Tooting. If I went there as a Hero Volunteer Blood Runner, would the nurses be gagging for it? They weren't exactly queuing up when I was a lowly courier. And I didn't meet anyone, unless you count queueing at a hatch waitting for the lab technician.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone who has worked on the receiving side of getting samples from blood bikers. The answer is don't. You're wasting your time delivering samples that aren't particularly urgent and taking money away from proper couriers.

You aren't saving anyone's life. You're just getting taken advantage of. Thumbs Up

It's a shite setup and not needed imo. Better off spending your time working more and donating to a foodbank or something.

Seems like a setup purely so people can get them some sort of status or something imo.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undinist wrote:
Is there an option to shag nurses? I'd need quite a juicy reward if I was going to spend 2 nights per month helping the Tories to cut the NHS budget. That's what this service is all about. If the hospitals had enough money they'd pay couriers. The last time I was a courier I carried small blood boxes with samples in them, for blood tests I suppose. Our client was St Georges Hospital in Tooting. If I went there as a Hero Volunteer Blood Runner, would the nurses be gagging for it? They weren't exactly queuing up when I was a lowly courier. And I didn't meet anyone, unless you count queueing at a hatch waitting for the lab technician.


Long story short, yes I did manage to do a nurse one time, no it was not worth it.
Here's what I said in a few posts last time this came about

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I don't really get the argument about only for the glory. I volunteer or job steal from couriers for serv kent three times a month, regardless of the weather, unless it is too cold for the product. I tried to volunteer in homeless kitchens, and work for other things through catering, however they wanted me to do lots of training and jump through lots of hoops.

It makes little to no difference to me if someone is put out of a job. I didnt have to lick any balls to start it, nor shake a can, and theres a good social aspect. Noone in kent is under any pretences they are saving peoples lives. It's quite clear that it is non emergency.

Incidently, my serv jacket is red and yellow with reflective tape, and I don't use any markings.

I'm no longer in the area and the blood bikers here seem a whole different bunch of arrogant twats.

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I had a dsa assessed ride, that cost 20 quid, and I saved more than that in insurance discount. I also get cost price tyres fitted. In terms of catering, at the time I was running a kitchen doing 20k a week on food, fully qualified and offering 18 hours a week of my time. They wanted me to pay for a crb/dbs (£45) take a training course (£120 and a week off work to attend) and then listen to old sally/jane etc who was running them at a terrible percentage of money vs food+nutrition provided, but has been there the longest and so knows best.

Fair enough on the other members. I'm quite open about it mostly just being a jolly on my bike that happens to help people. Do always ask if any serv discount at bike related things, same as I always ask about student discount now though. Maybe that's bad but meh.


This is why I ended up doing a blood bike rather than working in a soup kitchen like I was hoping to, or another similar charity.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 01 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news on the nurse. Thumbs Up If I did the blood rider thing I wouldn't have the discipline to stick to all the rules of the road, I always ride like a courier. Do people get very arsey if you don't ride to IAM standards?
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 02 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a friend do this a few months back , he gave it up because he got sick and tired of waiting for them to call.
He did get called out once or twice but that was just about it..
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 02 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe that was because of a shortage of controllers? In June one of the Surrey and South London riders wrote a sad story about not being called:

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Tonight we had four riders and a driver ready and waiting to provide an invaluable service but with no controller we had to turn all the calls away.


https://www.servssl.org.uk/how-could-you-serv/
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 02 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:
My local group prefer you to use your own bike; there are two marked up ones, but you have to have done at least 10 duties on your own bike, commit to doing at least 3 per month and be between 30 and 70 to be allowed to use them.


Many lol, much chuckle.

Need to grow up and earn your spurs before you get to switch the nee nars on Jimmy

What's the point in having the liveried bikes then?
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