New Mid Class bikes

[adi4ro]

Hi, I'd like to know what are you guys thinking about the small a2 licence bikes. I'm interested in the ninja 300 and Yamaha r3. How good are they? Can you race them in straights up for short bursts up to..lets say 100mph and stay quiet close with the 650cc bikes that are unrestricted? Not talking about the ones with more then 90hp of course. I like them 300's but I find myself doing a lot o sprints from the lights with other bikers ..granted they got 600's and I'm an idiot for even trying on a 125..but it puts a smile on my face every time..and I still love it..but I'd like to not get smoked as much:)) I mean...I know..they are Impossible to beat..but at least to stay a little closer to them not worlds apart..I'f I get one of the two I will certainly put new exhaust on it..race filter..get them dynod..etc.. But I'm also considering on trying my luck on a CBR650f with no restriction on it..since I keep seeing..that nobody and their mothers restricts anything on a god damn a2 licence..everyone I see with sv650's which I find to be ugly and 400's and what not..they don't have a restriction...So I'm thinking of going with an CBR650f..which would be nice for my drag race pleasures... now idk..would the 300's suffice? since they are way more cheaper...and can be made to look amazing. Thanks.

[G]

No.

Next exhaust, race filter, dyno'd would just be throwing money away.

There should be plenty of powerful enough bikes you don't have to spend a lot to get. For the price of a new 300 (which don't have much more power than a derestricted 125 2 stroke often - hardly 'midrange') you could get an SV650 and pay someone to put a different set of fairings on it and still have change left over.

[MCN.]

[Rogerborg]

If your only criteria is straight line drag racing off the lights, get a big capacity cruiser that's all torque and no power.

No, I'm not even joking.

Peak power, aerodynamics, cornering ability? All irrelevant for your hobby.

You want torque off the line and the ability to put it down on the road.

https://youtu.be/O1kI_9caRz4?t=73

https://youtu.be/DRUAvnEAeiI?t=8

Actually, the ideal bike would probably be electric.
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[orac]

heres a plan: get unrestricted licence, get unrestricted big bike
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[Shoeb]

Tell me this guy is not what the average British biker is like.

[G]

[Beehive Bedlam]

[monkeybiker]

[Beehive Bedlam]

[Rogerborg]

[G]

There's a difference between 'professional motorsports' and 'knowing how to pull away from traffic lights'.

The Honda rider has neither skills!

[Rogerborg]

To be honest, I kind of picture OP doing a lot of this.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/717254335e2db476ec54168051019925/tumblr_n1auejzWRr1s0mbfho1_400.gif
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[adi4ro]

Ye that's fantastic..thats what usually happens of course..let me ask you a simple question. Did you never ever while you've ridden meet a guy in trafic..and wanted to have a bit of fun? No let me guess.. You stopped him and kindly told him..lets take this to the "twisty's" as we have "soooo many" here in London ..no cameras...around every fucking bend..and lets see who the more technical rider is...like thats possible to prove around here. Yes I do own an a2 licence as of june..I love you guys really:) having fun with bigger bikes while the common idiots on 600's just love to prove their manliness against 125-250-300's ) just cause you are lucky enough to a) a holder of a a licence before the new changes took place or b) old enough to get on a direct access... what a great way to prove you know jack shit.. but no.. nobody said that this kind of things need to be proven on straights..its just for fun..and I'f you'd actually stop being sooo butt hurt you'd see that 95 of people who own bikes, do that or has done it at some point untill they got bored..now I hope I don't see any of you on the rode with direct access and unable top split lane because ohh well you wanted to ride a big bike and direct access was in reach..passed that..then stayed scared shitless for life when on your own..like I see a looot do..because well laws in England are fantastic..allowing anyone over 24 to jump on a litter bike even my grandma granted that if she would be lucky enough to get a nice examiner..and pass her just for monthly quota and then procced to examine a wall while not knowing what the fuck a litter bike is capable of.. I'd stop trolling if I were you unless I got an argument that consists of proven facts.

[Rogerborg]

[G]

[talkToTheHat]

XV535, much long, so torque, very A2. Geared super-short. Roundabouts eat footpegs. Is not a V-Max, the bike Yamaha made purely for the traffic light grand prix, but that won't A2.

Bench racing. From 0 to stupid in less time than it took to read this sentence.
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[c_dug]

Two predictions:

1) OP will one day look back on posts like this and realise why people think "prat".

Or

2) One day OP will be on Jeremy Kyle.

P.S. "lane splitting" is for yanks, we filter here old chap. Pip pip, telliho!
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[MCN.]

[Doovy]

[wodge]

[Shoeb]

Your description of how you ride is unsafe, unskilled, and deeply antisocial. Don't expect anyone on here to be convinced you have any skills (even safe filtering) just because you say so; your style of writing makes it difficult for people to imagine you as a rider of any finesse.

Anyway, frankly it's none of my concern, since people like yourself can rarely be convinced of their flaws through reasoned argument. Sadly, as another has stated, it will probably be the rear of a bus that eventually does that. The one thing I do take exception to though is your idea that 95 (I assume you mean to say percent) of us ride like you. By no means do I believe this to be the case, either in my own riding or that of the motorcyclists I see locally.

The problem is that the general public sees your mindless antics and assume that is the essence of motorcycling, that such behaviour is part and parcel of ownership. Thus it becomes very easy for biking to be continually legislated against (for example the new licence laws), since the public sees it as inherently anti-social and dangerous.

tl;dr: You are trying ruin the sport I love.

[c_dug]

Actually I probably do ride a bit like the OP at times, had my fair few wanker signs and what not. Fucks given... Zero. Traffic light GP is the highlight of my commute!

I have no problem if people want to hate me for how I ride, them hating you for how I ride isn't fair, but I'm not to blame for that. Lumping all bikers into the same pot is no different to saying "I got mugged by a black guy once, so we should send them all home".

Your issue should be with the mindless morons who can't work out the difference between two people who both happen to use two wheels to get around, they for the most part wouldn't consider it to be acceptable to lump people together on skin colour, religion, or the colour t-shirt they happen to be wearing that day.
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[Val]

[nowhere.elysium]

I'd be too busy laughing at the manchild on a 300 with something to prove to bother 'racing' them.

Then I would carry on with my day.
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