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PostPosted: 03:51 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: new bike and new to biking in general Reply with quote

Hi this is my first post so lets hope i dont completely screw this up

I just bought my first bike im 17 and i done my cbt about two months ago
and i just bought a bike. Its a Ajs regal raptor 125cc bike its an 06 plate. it needs some TLC but it runs good and has a decent mot and was just wondering what yous thought of the bike and any advice yous would have for a new rider.

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PostPosted: 08:27 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately my first thoughts would be don't buy a 125 cruiser, especially Chinese. Slow, heavy, with bad handling, just what you don't need, especially for the Mod1 test. Unpredictable reliability and poor finishing.

Winter's on the way, so what gear have you got, ie. overtrousers, jacket, gloves etc.?

Search through some threads about cleaning and maintence, especially chain maintenence.

The rest depends on what you want the bike for, how often you ride, where you ride and so on.
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive bought it already it seems ok i had a test ride on it and it pulls ok and seems decent the engine is a copy of the honda rebel one so it SHOULD be ok

edit: i dont have any gear yet no money lol my uncle has a jacket that might fit me and my dad can show me stuff to do with cleaning (he used to have a fazer 1000) and i am getting a lid soon
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: new bike and new to biking in general Reply with quote

bruceso94 wrote:
i done my cbt about two months ago


You did, did you?

Advice would be take your time on buying your kit and look for the bargains - then upgrade later once you find out what works for you.

Other than that - try not to fall off and potato yourself
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah im hopefully not going to become a spud anytime soon haha im going to take my time to begin with and get used to my bike and take it to a car park and do figure of 8s and emergency stops and stuff like that to get used to the brakes at different speeds
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good plan.

Be prepared for Teflon-Mike to go ballistic when he sees what you've bought. But, eh, it's a 125 it'll do what 125s do. You can't get anything substantially better until you're 19 so enjoy it for what it is - they certainly do look the part.

Keep an eye on eBay and Gumtree for gear, you can pick up some proper bargains if you're not in a hurry.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

O/H had an 05 model.
As chinks go.. surprisingly easy to live with. Started on the button whenever asked; very very occasionally demanded a dribble of petrol in the tank. wipe over with a cloth usually made it remarkeably shiny, though ally wheels were a bit scabby after five years livig outside all weathers.
Usual chink 'hassle' when she was huntig insurance renewals, or tryig to get a new chain & sprockets, or being told (as a woman) "Sorry, I cant find it listed, you must be wrong... are you SURE its an A-J-S.... can you put your Dad n the phone...."
Only real gripe with the thing was that when she came to sell it on, o one would give her actual real money for it... five years old; she'd paid £500 for it at three years old, with a reciept from the dealer saying it had cost £1700 rand new, and with a fresh C&S kit and MOT on it, all she got was tyre kickers, offering to swap it for non-running scrap, or hoping to ride it away for less than a few beers!
Oh.. and it was DOG slow. no.. actually thats somethg of an isult to Dogs.. well, a lot of dogs... it weren't no whippet! A fat old Labridour, perhaps...
Motor was willig enough and it'd chug up to 50 hapily enough, but any more than that? No. Give it enough space ad it might wheeze the last little bit of the way to 55, but no more. ever.
Curiously, I actually quite liked it.. for a cruiser its handling was reasonably stable and predictable, and it didn't run out of groud clerance quite as quick as I expected, and it was quite giggle nducing tryig to get the thing would up to a full head of steam and not waste any momentum rolling off the throttle or using the brakes for corners!
Not exactly 'exiting' though....
And t particularly MOD1 friendly, being none to manouverable, which was why she was trying to flog it on, in 2011, to get a bike she could do tests on before the 2013 three-tier licence system... but still.

My advice? DON'T bother taking it to a car park and tryng the figure 8 kind of thing.. it just ENT built for it! Go round the houses! You'll need the space, a) to turn, b) to get it moving!

Dont spend a PENNY you dont have to on the thing, on aythg unnecessary or flippant.. change the oil and spark plug frequently, and get the Haynes book of Chinky bikes to do the tappets and manually adjusted cam-chain tensioner at regular intervals.. like now, cos chances are they have never been touched yet!; The OE chain is made of cheese and so long a little wear makes a lot of stretch.. needs checking and adjusting VERY frequently; ought to have had a new one by now, but likely not much less cheese like if they got t off e-bay; else it's like as not the original with a LOT of links knocked out! Check, frequently, and replace with a decent euro-grade chain, not an e-bay special, if you dont want to be getting hands oily twice a week.

Other than that, just ride it. They're cheap way to work, not a toy, don't expect it to get any more exiting than that, and enjoy the fact you almost never have to stop at petrol stations! That really is the bikes best feature!

Wouldn't be my top choice of learner-bike; and probably not one I would expect a teen-ager to have much enthusiasm for.. but it end a BAD bike, and its certainly ore useful than many, if its not been too badly neglected, abused or butchered by previouse owners.

Welcome & enjoy.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know its a cruiser 125 and i didnt expect it to be quick haha. its gonna be used to haul my fat ass to ayr and back for college and have some fun on. i didnt have enough to buy and insure and tax a car so i thought i would get a lil 125, i got it for a good price it needs a lil work done to it though but it seems to run great it started first press of the button from cold when i went to see it and it sounded pretty good no knocks or clunks from the engine pulled decently and the clutch seems ok. i bought a bike that i could afford to break and be able to afford to put it right again and to tinker around with. so its kind of a project/daily use bike lol
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be aware you'll probably end up spending another £300+ on equipment/gear before the costs settle down.
£50+ on ground anchor, chain and locks
£200+ on helmet, jacket, boots, gloves, trousers, etc
£50+ on misc - ACF 50, cover, oil, etc
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick a Harley badge on it and you'll fool a few people. Laughing

Good luck with it, ride safe.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceso94 wrote:
i got it for a good price

Opinions may differ. If you got it for what you were happy to pay that's great though.


bruceso94 wrote:
it needs a lil work done to it

Anything out of the ordinary? Tef's got his meds dialled in and he's right that you'll want to spend the bare minimum on it. You'll never see a penny back of anything that you spend on it.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
You'll never see a penny back of anything that you spend on it.


This. But, you're only 17 once and if you're enjoying it then it's money well spent. There are many more sensible things to spend money on but at 17 that should be the farthest thing from your mind.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't have a pension you're just giving money to the tax-man.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not bothered if i dont see any money from it, i want a bike to have some fun on and to use for traveling to and from college and i got it for £300 with a 10 month mot on it. it has some cosmetic damage looks like its been dropped before nice dent on the tank and some other damage and it needs a new rear mud guard so not that expensive to repair the engine and stuff seems pretty good as i said before
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks nice enough, £300 for a running 125 with an MOT, I'd be happy.

Buy a big bottle of ACF50 though and get it on all the metalwork. It'll keep the corrosion at bay
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cool i will defiantly need to invest in a bottle of it
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, that's a win. Thumbs Up

And Thumbs Up to ACF-50 as well, it really does help.

I wouldn't sweat the cosmetics, just think of it as customisation. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i went to see it, it got me thinking instead of buying one that doesnt need anything done to it get one that has a decent mot and runs well and make it mine do some bits and bobs to it, im going to get a new rear mud guard and my mate can respray it for me (he has done other bikes) and just make it my own so it stands out im thinking of a cherry red for it as all the pics of them i havent seen any red ones and just make it look a bit different from all the little 125cc bikes ive seen around
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red should add at least 5mph.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

if not more Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some owners have reported as many as six.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's powerbands.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 15 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruceso94 wrote:
im not bothered if i dont see any money from it, i want a bike to have some fun on and to use for traveling....

And leave it at that... If it ent broke, don't fix it!

If you have to mess with it; change the fork oil; replace the brake fluid; grease the float-mounts on the front brake; clean the headlamp reflector, spend time taking electrical connectors apart, cleaning them with emery, spraying wth WD40 and pitting them back together with a coat of vasaline.

Ie a thing called 'Preventative Maintenence'; stuff that hopefully will avoid the engine conking out on you in the middle of a deep unexpected puddle, on an unlit road, late one, cold winter night... or similar.

Standing at the side of the road, in the dark, wet, cold, and miserable, with a dead bike, is NOT fun.. pushing the fucker home, even less! And utter torture if it happens to be bent and you bruised in the incident.

Dents and scratches? Yup. Chances are t'll gain a few more battle scars like that before winter's over... leave'em be.. call it 'Character'..

No-one will take a blind bit of notice how shiny and red the paint is in the few hours of day-light we get this time of year, even if they bother to look... which most dont, which is why they say "Sorry-Mate-I-Didn't-See-You!" (SMIDSY) when they knock us off.. and thats the ones thats SUPPOSED to be looking at us! So what difference will it make to the ones who aren't?

Meanwhile, if/when you come to tackle such aesthetics; odds on, are you will find stubborn seized and rounded fasteners galore; something as simple as the front mudguard.. Is ownlee four little screws! How hard can that be? Well, you are likely to discover... and the third one you come to take out will shear, leaving the shank of the bolt in the fork leg...

NOW, you have to take the wheel out and twisting the leg on teh stanchon, to get at the sheared shank, and sods law says it wont come out with a pair of mole-grips.. all of a sudden the job is a bastard, as you try balencing the bike, and wrestling that shank out the alloy... wondering whether you ought strip the forks down, and pt the leg in a vice, or get an electric drill on it.... OR.. pretend it never happened, and carry on, putting mudguard back on with just three bolts.. which will 'seem' OK.. but the mudguard will rattle every time you g over a bump, and will annoy you... more so, twisting each time it rattles, that nice new paint you chucked at t will start to crack....

Back mudguard? To get the it off, you'll have to un-wire all the back lights; wires will snap, more bolts will shear, or round, and again, you are likely to make more 'problems' for yourself than you actually solve.. given that looking a bit scruffy, isn't a problem, so far as getting places or passing an MOT

If it ent broke, dont fix it! Every time yo disturb something, you risk making a problem you don't need to have.

So, IF you are going to fiddle, put the effort into trying to avoid problems, rather than make them.. hence cleaning connections, greasing brake pins, and the like; stuff that WILL genuinely save hassle in the long run, not risk making it.

Enthusiasm, is great, but? Spend it wisely, and enjoy what you got for what it is, as it is, and get your fun, riding it a bit... it wont stay this 'awesome' for long, so make the most of it while you can.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 16 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum Very Happy

Make sure you change the oil and continue to do that regularly.

You will be fine Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: i came off :/ Reply with quote

so today i was out and it was wet and i wasnt going fast luckily and started to brake and didnt notice the manhole cover and i hit doing about 10-15mph and came off but im fine and the bike is ok needs a new set of handlebars
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