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Kaya75
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: New textile jacket for winter Reply with quote

Hello all,

I thought about posting this in the touring section, but it's a kit question so.. Here goes.

I ride all winter, generally and commute everyday, last winter I just used a big'ol hi viz over my summer leather jacket.. But when making progress on long roads it flap and it my lid which was seriously annoying.. And the leather still got cold stiff and damp.

So payday is next week and I'm going to splash out on a decent winter textile looking for something that will be easy to commute with daily and cope with 200miles of north bound M6 mid winter... On a naked bandit.

Budget sub £200

Thanks for any insights
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: New textile jacket for winter Reply with quote

Kaya75 wrote:
Budget sub £200

Thanks for any insights


https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/57738 (if you can stretch to the outlast version, do).

with https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/71184 if it gets really bad...
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the Wolf Titanium 3/4 jacket. Thumbs Up I've had a non-Outlast one for a couple of years and it has been excellent in all seasons. (I wasn't convinced that the Outlast membrane version would match the hype.) The collar feels a bit tight sometimes so the Velcro can come loose, and elsewhere I'd prefer zips on the main pockets and press studs over the main zip rather than Velcro, but water doesn't get in and the pockets don't spill so there's really no problem. I find that all textile jackets tend to absorb some rain into the outer material so in really torrential rain I still put a cheap, waterproof shell on top to shed water immediately rather than having to dry. It is also warmer that way.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also may want to consider;

1) Thermal layers.
2) Balaclava.
3) Thermal gloves or underglove.

I have the RST Blade textile jacket that I use on my daily commutes and has coped with whatever weather I've ridden in leaving me bone dry at the end of it as well as warm, ce armour to the shoulders and elbows with a level 2 back protector.. big old heft thing. Has a very well made removable inner thermal liner. One zip on the back as a vent.

Also have the RST Trachtech Evo textile jacket that has external shoulder protectors as well as internal ce shoulder protectors as well as an upgraded back protector race hump style at the top of the jacket combined with the back protector means that the entire back area is covered and protected. The back protector is only a level 1 foam so may be worth buying the better version from many available outlets that you can just replace for the standard one. Also includes the above inner thermal layer (they're all the same) and 4 zips for vents, two on the back and two on the front.

Alternatively RST do touring jackets although have never tried one on in person so cannot comment at all.

RST Blade / Trachtech can be had for about £120-140, just a range their both somewhere in the middle but cannot remember or bothered to look. Never covered 200 miles in one go so cannot comment on witch one I'd choose if any.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

try and get a discounted rukka from somewhere like fc moto

or a dainese goretex can be had for sub 200 come show time
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not long just got myself an RST paragon 4. Top bit of kit that is so warn i took the liner out. Comes with armour what is solid as it the back protector. It had a removable neck warmer that tucks under the lid. Lots of pockets and air vents for summer. £199. Best jacket i have ever bought.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 18 Oct 2015    Post subject: Re: New textile jacket for winter Reply with quote

Kaya75 wrote:
Hello all,

I thought about posting this in the touring section, but it's a kit question so.. Here goes.

I ride all winter, generally and commute everyday, last winter I just used a big'ol hi viz over my summer leather jacket.. But when making progress on long roads it flap and it my lid which was seriously annoying.. And the leather still got cold stiff and damp.

So payday is next week and I'm going to splash out on a decent winter textile looking for something that will be easy to commute with daily and cope with 200miles of north bound M6 mid winter... On a naked bandit.

Budget sub £200

Thanks for any insights


If you wnat to buy cheap buy from Europe online. Need to be careful here with sizes, although most sellers accept returns and size exchanges, they will charge you for the both shippings for the return.

Try to get the best brand the most expensive model you can find with the biggest discount you can find. That seems obvious but a lot of people go for cheap brands because of the price. You can buy quality gear cheap.

£213 buys you Furygan Titan - IMO the best jacket you can have with your budget. Has CE certified protection for the textile, most textiles have armor certified only not the actual textile material for tear and abrassion. This jacket is so warm I still wear it without the winter liner yet.

Form here:

https://www.fc-moto.de/Furygan-Titan-Textile-Jacket

Note go in some UK shop and try the fitting first, Furygan tends to run one size smaller for example I am XL, Titan that fits me is XXL.

If you fancy long touring style jackets, and they make sense for me in the winter, try Alpinestars Andes, again you need one size larger:

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/199087

For Gore-tex the cheapest good jacket IMO is Dainese Ice Evo:

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/214008

Tips to stay warm: get muffs and good winter balaclava

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HALVARSSONS-MAXI-FLEECE-SPANDEX-NEOPRENE-MOTORCYCLE-HORSE-RIDING-BALACLAVA-/221415851725
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Kaya75
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 19 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome replies, thanks for the time, gives me a nice selection to go at Thumbs Up I'm intrigued with the CE ratings there Val, never considered that...

Well I got pilots 4 on order for the wheels and need to look at these jacket options, cut down to a good selection here, same as all kit I reckon selection of quality reviews ( thanks all ) and then go try see what fits good and feels right Thumbs Up

Happy daze, n thank again Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 19 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpinestars Andes.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 19 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaya75 wrote:
Awesome replies, thanks for the time, gives me a nice selection to go at Thumbs Up I'm intrigued with the CE ratings there Val, never considered that...


Here are more details about CE:

https://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-clothing/ce-certified-vs-approved.htm

Not many textiles have the highest CE Level 2 approval.

Here is clothing CE approved master list:

https://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ce-approved-clothing-master-list.783126/page-15
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 19 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacGyver wrote:
Wind blasts straight through textiles & aren't waterproof no matter how expensive they are' leathers with a single piece rain over suit or 2 piece rain top/bottoms are deff warmer & less likely to let water in.

The other problem with textiles as the outer layer (aside from being $$$ for a decent goretex set like rukka) is unless you get a massive size, you are limited to how much insulation you can put under it.

After going with the rain suit type outer layers last year, it works but sweat can be a problem, and this year I've invested in some army surplus goretex over trousers for breathability / waterproofing (helikon ECWCS gen 2), and they are so good I'm going to get the jacket too.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 19 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
Alpinestars Andes.


Seconded.
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 20 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
Eddie Hitler wrote:
Alpinestars Andes.


Seconded.


The Jacket is good. The trousers give me a damp cock.
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