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rperr002
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: 2004 Suzuki GS500 wont Start - NEED HELP Reply with quote

Hi All,

I just got my first bike and I already ran into a problem. When I first purchased it, the bike started fine( Maybe I had to mess with the choke but thats it).

Now after a few days of light riding the starter wont engage. I get nothing most of the time.

The weird thing is that if I let it sit for a few hours it will try to turn over the first few times, then nothing after that.

Also, Headlights are bright and Horn works. Havent checked the battery yet

I've been getting around by push starting the think and I would very much appreciate any suggestions on what the problem might be.

On a side note, the petcock valve is leaking which may or may not be related.


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PostPosted: 19:53 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that the 'Suzuki EX500' doesn't exist may be contributing to your problem Laughing

Is it a Kawasaki EX500, or a Suzuki GS500?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bet is a GS as their petrol taps are shit. Buy a rebuild kit they are fairly easy to do.

Battery sounds like it needs charging.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you get lights, indicators or horn function? is there any noise like the motor spinning or the solenoid engaging?
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The battery is flat, or just ruined. Buy a cheap multimeter and check the battery voltage.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No solenoid noises. Lights, horn and indicators function. Yes its is a GS, my bad. And I am have a rebuild kit for the petcock valve already.

I gonna try and charge the battery and check it too.... but shouldn't the battery charge after I run it when I push start it? I guess I can also check the alternator.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes a good few miles of riding to start to recharge the battery once it's running - it's definitely not an immediate thing. Shagged batteries are not uncommon, and the current temperatures won't make early morning starting any easier.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the lights come on but it won't crank and if the bike will keep running with the headlight once you bump it on once started, it's probably charging and the battery is shagged.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get some jump leads to a car battery on it. Do it with the car not running. If the bike starts I would say you need a new battery.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery is bolloxed, charge it and see if it holds a charge if it does not replace it. Does the bike have an aftermarket alarm, they tend to drain batteries.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

are the light dim? horn sound wimpy, well more wimpy than normal? what happens if you jump the solenoid terminals (the two with nuts on them) with a screwdriver? - beware of a few spark when doing this, maybe not idea if there is petrol around, no one here is responsible for you setting your bike on fire. if it cranks when these are shorted than its a solenoid issue. else battery is the most likely

The GS5 will happily run without a battery if you bump start it, although not an ideal situation.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 21 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, Ill test the battery and let you know how it goes.
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PostPosted: 07:12 - 22 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll stress again that a £5 multimeter will save a lot of guesswork, time and money.

The other thing is, if it's a cheap wet cell battery (and given the bike it's likely to be) then the cells need to be wet.

https://www.o-digital.com/uploads/2179/2182-1/High_Performance_Motorcycle_Battery_YB4L_B_284.jpg

The electrolyte wants to be between the level lines in each cell - you'll be able to see it through the side if it's a wet cell battery like that. If not, add distilled / deionised water, available from garages, supermarkets or Halfrauds.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 22 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use rainwater in place of distilled water if you leave it open to the air for 48hrs before use just to be sure the minerals and heavy metals (Wyld Stallyns!!!!)* have dissipated.

Often, rainwater contains fewer ppm of particulates than bottled distilled water.

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PostPosted: 12:50 - 22 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS. I don't mean scoop it out of a puddle. Obviously, you'll need to collect it in a clean container as it falls from the sky.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 22 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not use rainwater as it is full of pollutants and life. collect a glass and leave it in full sunlight for a week and it will go green.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 23 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I would not use rainwater as it is full of pollutants and life. collect a glass and leave it in full sunlight for a week and it will go green.


I'll try that here in the countryside and at my in-laws' in a Northern town centre. Perhaps it's indicative of where you live and how polluted the air is. I've never had any problems out here in the sticks where the rainwater is fantastic for rinsing off a freshly-washed car as it doesn't leave any watermarks when it dries. Perhaps if you live nearer the city it would be full of pollutants.

I shall report back.

Chemically speaking though, distilled water and pure rainwater should contain similarly small amounts of pollutants.
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 28 Oct 2015    Post subject: Got Some Testing Done Reply with quote

Hey Guys thanks for the suggestions.

I tested the voltage on the battery - 9 Volts. I also discovered it was a lithium battery if that means anything.

I bump started the bike and tested the voltage while running. It read 11 volts. A little under the 13 volts I think its suppose to read, but I think that's because the battery is bringing down the voltage of the charging system.

Gonna buy a battery today. last one was three years old. Checked and cleaned terminals as well fyi.
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