There aren't enough black rozzers

[DrSnoosnoo]

From - BBC

So the population of black and minorities aren't represented well enough throughout the police force.

Theresa May has "condemned" it. I assume she'll be sweeping black people from their current jobs and forcing them to be a police occifer eh?

We'll see a news story in a few months reporting police forces having recruitment drives for just minorities, making it more difficult for a white person to become a rozzer.

FFS this whole "equality" bollocks is making me hate their version of "equality".

A few weeks ago we complained that tazers were used more on black people, which obviously does not mean that black people are more likely to commit a crime and require tazering, no, it means the police are racists.

Sorry for the rant.
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I realise areas like mine are dying out fast, but the local constabulary should reflect the LOCAL populace.
Employing token darkie coppers in the 3 or 4 areas left in the UK that are un enriched just so they can tick
a box on their white guilt chart is more offensive to me than refusing to employ any ethnics at all would be.
And of course it's not unpopular because its a job with an emphasis on timekeeping, attendance, shift work
and adherence to the law or that their own community would reject them out of hand for becoming a
copper in the first place. But no, it's because we're racist of course. Some wanna be cops, some wanna be robbers.
I wonder which typically appeals more to young black men.

These?
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or these?

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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/29/article-2166636-13DA9D54000005DC-821_634x308.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/21/article-2265816-020FED67000004B0-316_634x427.jpg


Hmmm... Tough one.
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[Tracey Suntan-King]

What is she on about.....?

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[Rogerborg]

I'd be interested in seeing the numbers on:

How many apply.
How many are accepted.
How many wash out during training.

Although I'm actually not that bovvered about skin colour, my main problem is the recruitment of midgets, beanpoles and nippy sweeties who are incapable of handling situations without escalating to sprays, zappers or shooters.
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So the police force should reflect the ethnic diversity of their region?

Ok.

County Durham.

Out of 513,242 census respondees, 701 identified as black. So 0.14%

So to reflect the racial diversity of couty Durham, roughly 3 in every 2,000 coppers should be black.

There are 1,362 coppers in Durham constabulary. To accurately reflect their racial makeup, they should have one black copper.

They should also have 10 asians.
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[Rogerborg]

Perhaps it should reflect the ethnicity of the local criminals?
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[Lord Percy]

Equality is pissing me off these days too. It seems to only be an issue because people keep saying it is.

Today I got an email on my university account, titled, "Why are my courses so white?", to invite students to an event promoting an eduction system that goes beyond the scope of western thought. For starters, since when does western = white ???

I suppose it is interesting though. If the statistics say there isn't a correct balance of racial diversity in certain police forces, this suggests that people who are second/third/fourth(?) generation immigrants are still not identifying strongly as British enough to want to join a government organisation set up to protect and serve the British community. So the real issue is not simply 'not enough black police', but, 'why don't they want to join?'

One of my housemates has Pakistani parents and grew up in a Bradford community that was so Asian he said when he first started coming to Leeds he felt like all the white faces looked the same (!!! ) . I wonder what he would say if I asked him what he considers to be his identity..? And do he or his mates feel like they're part of the wider British community? I don't really dare to ask him that, so I'll speculate and say that it seems there is a definite insularity to some immigrant neighbourhoods. Not saying they're bad people, but social/cultural cohesion is a blatant issue here. Definitely might explain why they don't care for being coppers - it's 'not their country'!

[Polarbear]

When I was loaned out to an instrumentation company in the US, they were over a threshold (which I can't remember) where they had to employ a certain percentage of minoritys and disabled.

Bearing in mind this company only employed around 30/40 people, from what the owner said he had to employ 1 disabled and at least 3 ethnic minority members.

Now I have no idea if that was a national thing or a state rule (North Carolina) but It caused him no end of trouble. He said he was going to try and reduce his work force and offer people more overtime and bonuses to take up the slack.

Sort of defeats the object of getting jobs for people.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

[Rogerborg]

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I wonder what the relationship between social class and copper-ness is?

I'd wager a middle class black guy is more likely to become a copper than a white piece of human detritus from a sink estate.

[Polarbear]

[Tracey Suntan-King]

Anyhoo........what proportion of the force is female? Seriously.

50%?

No, 28% actually. So far from representative.

And what about quotas for gay, lesbian, trans, intersex, non-defined and don't even get me started on disabled......

S'not fair.

They should be concentrating on raising the average IQ of beat plods IMO.
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[Polarbear]

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I always think these "representation" things are on a bit of dodgy ground. It's kind of like "correlation does not equal causation".

Like you always hear about how "85% of CEOs are men", but of course 85% of men are not CEOs. Only a fraction of a percent of men are CEOs, as only a fraction of a percent of the population as a whole are CEOs.

I just did this example to illustrate.

Say we have a population of 1 million, 50:50 male to female.

Of that population 1 in 10,000 is a CEO, of which 85% are male.

That gives 100 CEOs in total, broken down into 85 male CEOs and 15 female CEOs.

Let's consider not the ratio of CEOs genders but instead the proportion of "not CEOs" for each gender.

Female side:

100 x (499985/500000) = 99.997% of female population are not CEOs

Male side:

100 x (499915/500000) = 99.983% of male population are not CEOs

It suddenly looks a lot less unequal doesn't it... I'd imagine it would pan out in a similar way for police, less extreme though as there are obviously more police officers than CEOs in the country. The vast majority of blacks will not be coppers, but the vast majority of whites are not coppers either.

[Skudd]

Just as long as they don't reduce the standards required.
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