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PostPosted: 20:23 - 31 Oct 2015    Post subject: CBT instructor? Reply with quote

Howdy

Looking into the instructor course... Is there much hope of a job after?! Self employed I assume but is there much demand specially for an inexperienced instructor?

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PostPosted: 20:33 - 31 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you based?

Worth visiting training schools to see if they're taking on / might take on extra instructors in the near future - might be a case of doing the course and picking up work in the spring now.
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Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 31 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Berkshire, will make a few calls on Monday. Not quite had license for 3 years so looks like no immediate rush but I can plan ahead Smile
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 31 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you not need to have held a licence for x years beforehand?
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 31 Oct 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Do you not need to have held a licence for x years beforehand?


3 years...
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 01 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: CBT instructor? Reply with quote

mic wrote:
Howdy

Looking into the instructor course... Is there much hope of a job after?! Self employed I assume but is there much demand specially for an inexperienced instructor?

Cheers


Contact Jim at Abbey Motorcycle Instructors

https://abbeymotorcycleinstructors.com/

He is always on the look out for new staff and he has been busy with an increasing number of students.

He is based in Abingdon, so not too far depending where in Berkshire you are.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 01 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its like it was pre Direct Access there isn't a living to be made unless you own the school. The money you get from taking lessons just about covers your expenses. The 'earners' always used to be the CBT days when you would instruct in a ratio of 2:1 for decent cash... May have changed now though.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 01 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's Quickstart at Taplow (near Maidenhead) just off the A4 by the station which is where I did my CBT

There's also one north of Reading where I did my 'Get On' session to prove to the wife I could ride a motorbike - might be worth a look through 'Get On' to get contact details for the schools, might be able to get enough work from 2 or 3 local schools as and when they need extra instructors
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 02 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be 3 options available for anyone thinking about becoming an instructor.

1: Do the CBT1C and DAS assessment solo at Cardington on your own with no real training. (I wouldnt recommend)

2. Pay a stupid amount of money to be "trained" to pass the CBT1C and DAS assessment. (waste of money and again I wouldnt.)

3. Try and get in with a good school who will train you and serve some time as downtrained. (I would recommend)

I'll explain my reasoning for each step using my own experiences.

1. Going into Cardington with no training can be done. The chances of passing are slim to none. The CBT1C has around a 40% pass rate and the majority of candidates who take the 2 day assessment come from schools who have trained them up, like myself. As an instructor with a full year as downtrained I still manage to fail the CBT1C the first time. I wont lie, the assessment is probably the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Going alone without training. I really would not recommend it, you will not come out of the end an instructor.

2. Paying a school an extortionate amount (I've seen websites charging in excess of £1500) for an intensive week long course to prepare you for the Cardington assessment. Again this does not make you an instructor and you will have a better chance of passing but the chances are you wont the first time.

3. Join a local school who will train you up. You might even be lucky enough to be trained up for free to downtrained status. I was lucky. I got in with a great local school who trained me up. I worked for free (trained) and was in pretty much every day for 2 months before having an inhouse assessment and gaining my downtrained warrant. Once downtrained you can conduct CBT training on your own warrant for the school who trained you and even get paid. I spent a good year as downtrained, getting the experience as an instructor before going to Cardington and failing it the first time. OK I nailed it the second time as the strongest of the 3 candidates but I did fail the first time. I was an instructor before going. I was a DVSA qualified one when I passed. The year downtrained was worth its weight in gold in comparison to doing the CBT1C without training.

That is not even mentioning the DAS training, which, oddly enough, is great fun.

My advice and I am pretty sure any of the fellow instructors on here, who have done their 1C will agree, get in touch with local schools, ask if they are looking for an apprentice, explain your final aim (DAS qualified) and if you get somewhere, work your heart out for free to obtain your downtrained warrant and live life as a CBT instructor for a while. Serve some time as downtrained because as much fun as the job may sound, there is an awful lot of work involved, a shedload of stress and when you are let lose unsupervised on the road with a 16 year old on a ped, a whole lot of terror.

I love my job. I consider myself lucky to have landed in a job I love and I have worked bloody hard to become good at my job. But I still come home every day mentally exhausted. I still have my moments where I wonder if I am in the right job, I still have my moments where I am thankful that both I and the student made it back to the yard alive. And I am currently sitting here after what was a very hard CBT student today knowing tomorrow morning I have to go and do it all over again

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If you still want to give it a shot, ignore options 1 and 2 and go for 3. [/img]
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 02 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
3. Try and get in with a good school who will train you and serve some time as downtrained. (I would recommend)


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Paying for training to become a CBT instructor is a waste of time and money. The option to downtrain instructors is there so you may as well try to use it. Find a school that will downtrain you and work for them at weekends for a while to see if you like it or not. You will be tied to that school and can only work for them.

It shouldn't be too hard to get trained. CBT instructing is the part of the job most people are willing to hand off because it's the most tedious. You will spend most of your day walking up and down the training area and not much of it riding.

Don't give up your day job. Schools get around £100 for a CBT, you will get a bit of that. Take your fuel, insurance, bike wear and tear etc. out of that and it adds up to not much.
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