BMW enter the Smaller capacity market

[Dabura]

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/pressDetail.html?title=the-new-bmw-g-310-r&outputChannelId=6&id=T0241570EN&left_menu_item=node__10397


313cc Single naked putting out 25kw(34bhp) and
28nm, 158.5kg unladen and abs, looks pretty smart wonder what they'll price it at

[grr666]

Made in India. Home of quality workmanship.
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Price will be £stupid, might as well get a YBR250.
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[Rogerborg]

Well, let's see what they do with it. The G650GS was pretty competitively priced at launch, before they nudged the price up and effectively killed off sales. Actually... they may have killed off the bike, it's not showing on their finance or configurator pages.

The specs are fine for a commuter, it's surprisingly unlardy, it is going to come down to price and reliability. Although MCN will of course wax lyrical about BMW build quality anyway (and their advertising cheques never bounce).
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[KnightsFall]

I'm curious where Visordown get 90mph from. It sounds conservative for the spec (the lardy Inazuma can apparently do 85mph with about 10 less hp and around 30 more kg). I can't see it mentioned in that article.

If the quality and price are decent, I possibly would as an urban commuter.

Edit:Never mind, it's in the pdf. 145kph.

[MCN]

BMW ARE SHITE. Word.
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[Dabura]

I'm starting to believe the price will be comparable to a certain orange Austrian machine since that looks to be its main rival, I'm still don't see the echos of the s1000r just looks like a low end commuter bike

[MCN]

[Rogerborg]

At least with 33hp it might not spit its conrod bolts out.
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[Polarbear]

BMW, probably more than any other bike manufacturer rely on the badge being synonymous with quality. They can't afford to turn out a pile of shite (quality wise) that will be many peoples first foray into BMW machinery.
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[RhynoCZ]

[Vracktal]

I'd trust India more than China to build a bike properly.

I'd also like to see a supermoto version with the 310 engine plx.
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[Rogerborg]

[rcbikeracer]

how about a 250 single

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_R27

[MCN]

[Polarbear]

Hey, I don't disagree with you. What I said was that is peoples perceived idea about the BMW brand, espcially people on their first foray into the bike market.

If someone buys that bike and it turns out to be crap, they aint going to buy another BM.
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[Rogerborg]

But most modern BMWs already do come with a laundry list of issues.

And yet their sales just get stronger and stronger.

So when are their customers going to stop making excuses for them and take their business elsewhere? This is not a rhetorical question.

I keep saying: mine has been OK so far. I was lucky in my choice of model, and have been lucky in that it hasn't had any of the electrical, paint flaking, water sucking or head bearing issues that other owners have reported. The gear position sensor has just spazzed out in heavy rain, but hopefully a dose of WD-40 has pacified it.
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[MCN]

[wr6133]

[Rogerborg]

Bingo. Spot on.

I expect that there will be strong incentives for dealers to sell lease them on PCP.

Actually, I wonder if they'll even deign to sell them outright.
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[MCN]

[Vracktal]

My BMW just passed 45,000 miles and the only things i've changed are service items. Paint is still fine except slight flaking around the gearbox and the base of the engine cover (although the radiator doesn't cover this). Bike hasn't been ACF50d or even cleaned regularly.

YMMV I guess, hoping I got a good 'un.
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[MCN]

[wr6133]

[Polarbear]

Probably a stupid question but do BMW cars and bikes have the same parent company or are they two completely separate entities with only the badge in common?

I ask for two reasons -

1. If they are under the same corporate umbrella I would have thought they would have the same goals and set up as the cars, and therefore back up their products properly.

2. If they are just a badge I would have thought BMW cars wouldn't be too happy with the relatively bad reputation the bikes are getting for major failures or faults and the risk of it tarnishing the badge. Maybe causing them to lean on BMW bikes to clean up their act?

Or couldn't any of them care less as long as the money keeps rolling in or they aren't caught out (like VAG)
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