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NJD
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Hit from behind.. all done and dusted?a Reply with quote

Shall update with full details latter as I'm on phone and currently at work.

Shirt story; was approaching a junction and stopped got rear ended and slow speed and cracked the mudguard, checked the bike over and rear wheel is in like and rear brake works.. I accepted £30 for an entire mudguard on the spot as he offered to pay and wasn't keen to go through insurance as nor am I.

All on gopro, he accepts he wasn't looking at me and instead at the flow of traffic assuming I was going to take off, didn't see me stop.

Have a text from him asking if I got to work ok as we agreed that if I made it home and called no further damage we'd leave it at that. Should I respond and call the end to it?

Do I need to do anything else? I've ridden the bike about 5 miles to work and didn't have any issues hard to say with the wind blowing me around.

All the end of it or need to have it looked at? It didn't throw me forward was just the sound of cracking plastic so I didn't move at all.

Thanks.

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Make and model and phone number.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you didnt move when he hit you then from a personal point of view i'd say its highly unlikely any more damage has been done than the mudguard.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I accepted £30 as that's what the broken part costs.

Is it a legal requirement to inform insurance and the police or can I just leave it as it is?
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
I accepted £30 as that's what the broken part costs.

Is it a legal requirement to inform insurance and the police or can I just leave it as it is?


They aye ask you to report any accident but it is not law to do so.

Read your policy T&C.

I have done several damage to cars/ bikes and not told the feckirs anything.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're satisfied it's just the mudguard (sounds like it to me too if you weren't thrown forward) then take the cash and call it quits.

I reversed the car into a range rover last year, even the driver thought the dealer quote to fix was horseshit (scraped plastic mudguard, £800) and we agreed on half that in cash.

Point is, shit happens. Nobody was hurt so fix the damage and move on so nobody loses any sleep worrying about something that should be nothing.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do keep posting answers shall reply tonight after work, many thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
I accepted £30 as that's what the broken part costs.

Is it a legal requirement to inform insurance and the police or can I just leave it as it is?


You only need to report it to the Police if the law was not complied with and there was injury

No legal requirement to report it to your insurers unless you intend to make a claim, but as already mentioned check your T & C, but even then because of strict liability, no reason to let them know as you will claim directly from the third party insurers
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hit by a little Citroen van in similar circumstances whilst on my R1 a couple of years ago. The bike was playing up (electrical), which meant I missed my chance to pull away smartly. There was a light thump, the bike moved forward about a foot and it lifted so I was on tiptoe. The car's bonnet had gone under the exhaust can and jacked the bike up, luckily wedging me upright. It must have nudged the tyre too, but it was still in contact with the road so I just rolled forward, accepted the driver's apology and foolishly rode off within 30 seconds or so, I was so mad at the hesitant bike. Worse, I punished it with revs (but it liked it) for 2 miles down the country road home and only then thought I should have done a safety inspection before leaving the scene. Remarkably, as it turned out the car's bonnet had suffered more damage than the bike, which only had a paint smudge under the can. Tough as ol' boots!
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
Is it a legal requirement to inform insurance and the police or can I just leave it as it is?

Urgh, this country. Brick Wall

Even Nanny State doesn't insist on getting involved in every little fender bender mudguard mangler.

You're fine, you've both handled it like decent responsible adults. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a moment I was going to accuse you of trying to destroy your Honda NC, then I realised that you were actually noodles and not potato..
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 12 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm home, I'm yet to respond to his message asking me if my bike is running ok.

I'm not sure if I was in shock (as over dramatic as it sounds) or unaware of how hard he hit me but I've just watched the footage back and as I stop to look right he hit me from behind harder than I thought the bike jumped forward a little lifting my hands of the bars and stalling the bike.

I've checked the bike over at the roadside when he hit me and noticed when spinning the rear wheel that the rear brake seemed iffy, after spinning it a few more times it was fine.. I've just done the same at home and it's rubbing more than I'd think was normal having last been serviced 1000km ago.

I can't comment on if the bike feels weird as the wind was blowing me all around on the way home and the roads where wet.. I just couldn't help but feel like the bike was playing up in terms of delivering more power than I was telling it to.

I've just tried to adjust the rear brake and it seems stiff, I looked at the chain and wheel and it seems straight.

I took the £30 on the spot because I thought it was a light tap but the footage shows it was different and I can't help but think I'd be a mug to text him and say this is the end of it.

Is it worth posting the footage or would that land me in legal trouble if I ask to go through his insurance and where do I stand know that he's give me money on video?
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:

Is it worth posting the footage or would that land me in legal trouble if I ask to go through his insurance and where do I stand know that he's give me money on video?


Edit whatever you post to only show what's needed.... as for insurers edit out whatever is not relevant to the events.

Get someone else to ride your bike, it's fairly normal after a drop or prang to start "feeling" non existent issues.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you report it to your insurance they may well up your premium on renewal (as they are c***s), there logic is that you have been involved in an accident and therefore are a liability even though it was not your fault and you did not claim (did I mention insurance companies are c***s?).
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for editing the footage we both signed a receipt that said he gave me £30 for a mudguard.

I looked over the damage and the rear mudguard is bent, the rear light is at an angle (slight.. it straightens out when mudguard is pushed left) and it looks like there's some cracks above the light although I cannot be sure if that's just how the rear side panels join together and some form of seal inside is out of place.

Rear brake is defiantly binding tighter than earlier and isn't spinning as freely as footage shows when checking after and when I got to work although I did manage to push the adjustment rod forward just to ensure it wasn't stuck.

I put a broom in front of the front wheel (across) and put a bungee strap on it and pulled it all the way to the rear wheel, looks fine on the right hand side (as far as I can tell.. have never checked before) although wasn't sure on the left side of the bike as it seems not straight as there was a gap between the bungee strap at the front when making contact with the rear wheel.. wasn't sure if it just kept moving or if it's out of line.

Do I contact him and ask for insurance details and phone them tomorrow and let them deal with it as it's all on footage including him admitting fault or should I take it to a garage and get it assessed and let him foot the bill?

On the ride home the rear wheel did slide a little bit on a roundabout and the bike did feel funny.. I'm not convinced it's in a ridable state.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
I'm home, I'm yet to respond to his message asking me if my bike is running ok.

I'm not sure if I was in shock (as over dramatic as it sounds) or unaware of how hard he hit me but I've just watched the footage back and as I stop to look right he hit me from behind harder than I thought the bike jumped forward a little lifting my hands of the bars and stalling the bike.

I've checked the bike over at the roadside when he hit me and noticed when spinning the rear wheel that the rear brake seemed iffy, after spinning it a few more times it was fine.. I've just done the same at home and it's rubbing more than I'd think was normal having last been serviced 1000km ago.

I can't comment on if the bike feels weird as the wind was blowing me all around on the way home and the roads where wet.. I just couldn't help but feel like the bike was playing up in terms of delivering more power than I was telling it to.

I've just tried to adjust the rear brake and it seems stiff, I looked at the chain and wheel and it seems straight.


my brakes are always really free running as I run up the slight hill behind our house, using the brakes when backing the bike downhill in an S wiggle to get through our gate can sometimes make it a hard push forwards into where I park it, disk brakes rely on the disk turning to knock the pads out the way to an extent so that could be the extra rubbing you're finding.

Your riding, you'll have been on edge a bit from having been bumped and the bad weather, I had a similar incident except my bike was punted from under me so I'm guessing I was hit a bit harder than you, but I wasn't hit from dead aft so to speak. The AA sent a chap on a Pan Euro to check it over for me to ensure it was safe to ride but it still felt weird riding it home.

Perhaps let the chap know you got home safe and will be having a last check tomorrow in daylight. This way you're not ignoring him, but is also aware you're double checking things are as they should be.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:
Perhaps let the chap know you got home safe and will be having a last check tomorrow in daylight. This way you're not ignoring him, but is also aware you're double checking things are as they should be.


Sent him a text to inform him I was home safe and that due to still being in slight shock and the weather / darkness shall inspect and message him again tomorrow with a result.

Shall give it a look over tomorrow and take it around the block and then see where I stand from there.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: re Reply with quote

say your taking it to a mechanic to give it the once over. if there are any further damages/charges you will let him know and it is up to him if he wants to pay for them in cash or you can go through insurance.

if he refuses cash outright i would be inclined to go halves depending on cost as informing insurance could ramp it up a bit
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Friday the 13th, I'm leaving the bike at home. Shocked

Anyhow.. positive progress;

I come to the (IMO most sensible and best) conclusion that as the impact was enough to throw me forward slightly and bend the mudguard and brake light that since it's connected to the rear of the frame it's best to have it looked at for piece of mind. The only other issue is a slightly sticking or rubbing rear drum brake however will notify the shop as it most likely needed an adjustment before hand and I've only noticed because of this situation.

Contacted other person and he's agreed to turn up when I go to collect the bike to foot the bill in full. I found his location anyway and he lives in the same area as the shop I want to use so it's no bother for him.. not that he knows that I know that.

Most annoying thing is that the insurance is due next week and I cannot take the bike in until early next week, looks like I might have to wait until the bike is fixed and paid for before I take out another policy, I might end up having to phone them to renew just to get it out the way on the spot. Shall see how that develops, they've got two days (three if you include the day I'm taking it in) to get it looked at and fixed and I've never had to wait longer than that for anything before.

The bike is ridable but I think I’ll take the bus to and from work to be on the safe side.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hit from behind. Non fault. Happend to me August before last. Scratched every shiny part on the right hand side. I perused my claim for damage to the bike against the other party's insurance as we were both with LV and I knew pocket change would make the bike roadworthy, and the insurers would go for a write off. Particularly as oem exhausts were more than the book value of the bike. That said salvage value of bike was more than book value.

You may not notice an injury for a few days. In said rear-ending I damaged a ligament in my thumb and didn't notice anything more than a bit achey until a few days later when I got cold riding through a rainstorm in my summer gloves, got home and put my hand around a coffee cup to get warm and everything exploded in pain. Queue hospital, and being banned from bikes, pyros, guns, swordfighting and all the other stuff that makes my life fun. That said my body is screwed big-time and my wrecked ankle was "about a 1" on the pain scale.
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

In conversation with a friend earlier I said that I must have been in shock at the time as I remember it being a small crack and looking backwards where as the footage shows me jumping forward with the hand of the bar and looking behind like wtf, my memory doesn't recall it as it actually happened or shows on the gopro footage.

I've literally attempting to type this post confused myself by thinking that it happened two days ago and not yesterday, can't even get my days right probably a good job that I'm leaving the bike and not riding it until I need to take it to the shop to get it looked at / leave it with them next week.. definitely the sensible option.

I'm taking the bike in early next week and then the insurance runs out late next week so I'm going to wait until the shop phones me with a verdict before taking out another policy. My best hope is that since the parts on the bike are next day delivery that they replace a few parts and deem it ok and safe and then just wait for the guy to go and pay and then for me to arrive and renew insurance on the spot.

Either way I've been as fair as possible with the guy and explained that I cannot pre-judge the charges and that he needs to pay possible labour (as it's under warranty) as well as for any other parts that may need replacing minus the £30 he's already given me for the mudguard.

All I can do is wait, ride it to the shop leave it with them and then hope for the best.

Onwards and upwards, once the bikes fixed and I get back on it I might consider contacting the local training school depending on how I feel mentally once I know that the bikes in working order, sounds OTT but we'll see how it goes.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 13 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop whining like a bitch and take it apart. Do it quick for peace of mind. Bend back or weld what you need to. I got rear ended by a jeep. No damage other than whiplash. Let the slut go knowing she'd have gotten a good rear ending from me in different circumstances. Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 14 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a knock from behind, that is all. I have crashed in hillclimb, straightened out the bike at lunch and rode in the second run with broken ribs and driven home after.
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