50/70cc Moped aged 16?

[olster]

So im 15 atm and when i turn 16 in a couple of months im looking to ride a 50/70cc moped.

Ive ridden a motocross bike for 8 years so i have some knowledge about bikes.

I understand that a moped for a 16 year old must be restricted to 31mph and under 50cc.

Ive seen and know plenty of people who are 16 with mopeds that definitely do more than 31mph and some people i know have mopeds that have 70cc engines that are stamped 49cc.

My question is: what would happen if the police caught you doing over 31mph on both a 50 and 70
and: can police tell if you have a 70cc moped if you are doing under 31mph

I understand that my questions are probably a bit confusing however i want this question of mine to be cleared up

Thanks alot

p.s. Im very new to this website so i dont know if im posting in the correct place :/

[dydey90]

No, they can't tell what engine size it is and probably wouldn't even have a close enough look to see if it's stamped at 70cc.

However, there are two risks.
-it's not unheard of for the police to turn up at a 6th form or a college with a rolling road in a van and dish out tickets for anything that's going over 50kmph.
-if you crash it, the insurance investigator will look at the engine. If you've completely replaced it, that's an undeclared modification and therefore void insurance, which will be very expensive.

So basically, yes you can, but you shouldn't and you'd be better off just putting up with it and moving up to a 125 after a year.
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[cb1rocket]

It's just illegal and asking for trouble unless you get away with it. Wait until you can get a 125. Otherwise you will probably end up with massive fines
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[Andy_Pagin]

Police clock you doing 35mph for a few hundred metres.
Possibilities are:

Driving other than in accordance with your licence - fine + points.
Driving without insurance - bigger fine and lots of points.
Failure to inform the DVLA that you've changed the vehicle from a moped to a motorcycle - fine and points.
Unroadworthly vehicle - bye bye bike and walk home.

The real killer is the insurance because you have to inform insurers of motoring convictions, usually for up to five years, so is it work the risk when it could result in your first car costing you perhaps £10,000 a year or more to insure? And don't even think of not telling them, that's fraud - criminal record, bloody great big fine if you're lucky.

Being sixteen is an affliction that only lasts for 365 days (except in leap years), once your over it you can legally ride something twice as fast and four times as powerful, so put up with it.
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[binge]

Been there, done it, got away with it.
But I know people who were not so lucky.
When I was 16, the police were less kitted out for testing, and to be honest, they cared a lot less as there were a lot less of us on the road.

My second moped was actually a Speedfight 100 back end, stuffed into a Speedfight 50cc frame.
Much more reliable than a 70cc bore kit and race exhaust.
Hell of a lot quieter too.
But, not quite as fast.
It still did 50mph though.




Ben

[Nobby the Bastard]

The law says '50cc and designed to only do 28mph. (and other power stuff)'

Despite what the police will try and tell you, if they nick you doing more than 28mph it doesn't stop it being a moped and your insurance and licence is still valid because it was designed to do no more than 28 mph.

What makes it in breach of your licence and insurance is increasing the engine capacity above 50cc. Even 51cc stops it being a moped.
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My first thoughts when reading your opening post were along the lines of 'what a cock-end' and I was about to tell you what an irresponsible tosser you are. I held back though when I realised that that would have made me a hypocrite as I owned, and rode around on, a Yamaha YDS5 and a Suzuki T20 when I was just 15 years old
As you were.
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[dydey90]

[Andy_Pagin]

[Rogerborg]

[Pie-Roe]

Depends where you live too.
If you live in an inner city area with lots of crime and wear trackies you'll be at higher risk, especially with the token cut down or missing L plates.

Smaller town/countryside and wear textile jacket and full size L plates, doubt it'd be a problem.

[Cadbury]

Back when I was starting out on 2 wheels I purchased a brand new aprilia habana 50cc. As far as I know it was standard from the dealer, still 'restricted' and it did a genuine 42mph.... No idea how. I can only guess I somehow got a derestricted version

[Copycat73]

[Cadbury]

[Copycat73]

[Iain.]

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Why are you bothered about an extra 20mph(or what ever the extra speed is)?

Is it to impress your mates?
To have that extra speed?

Also, why bother if you are used to offroad bikes? Which are probably more fun and definitely faster.

IMO, you'll just run a risk of points/fines and waste your money doing the bike up, when all you have to do is wait a little while.
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[rhys99]

Im 16 and did ride a de restricted 50cc,never had a problem.Got caught speeding at 40mph and nothing happened.
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[stevo as b4]

I bet Iain's gently modded, smooth and quiet ped+ a touch more poke, would get nearly as much Po Po attention as those Italian kids must attract in town with their 38bhp 125cc KTM's, Husqvarna's, Fantic's and TM's etc.

[cb1rocket]

Why are we still bothering on this topic. No thanks from him and are still talking to ourself haha
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[Rogerborg]

So that when somebody necros it in 3 years it'll have more content.
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