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The Artist
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Recommend me a cordless drill Reply with quote

Since they range in price from £25 to £hundreds, I thought maybe someone could recommend a decent but not crazy expensive cordless drill. This is not for industrial use, just for around the house but must be able to drill a 10mm hole through 3mm steel without too much of an issue.

This looks like the bottom end of Makitas range, does that mean it's shite?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Makita-8391DWPQ-18-Volt-2-Speed-Combi-Drill-1-3-Ah-Battery-Charger-Case-/252148811987?hash=item3ab53d88d3:g:2TsAAOSwgQ9VpM2L
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black n Decker innit mate. Wink

This is what I'm rocking. 18v and hammer. 24 position clutch baby!

https://www.blackanddecker.co.uk/powertools/productdetails/catno/EPC188SA/

..It's cheap and still works.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd776c2-gb-18v-1-3ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill-xr/17648

This has 2 batteries, always a must have with cordless tools!
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: Recommend me a cordless drill Reply with quote

A lot of people don't rate them, but I've had my Ryobi getting on for 9 years and so far the only bit gone on the drill was the gear selection switch - thought it was the gearbox it's self, but turned out some superglue to reconnect an internal tab fixed it.

I've gutteda NiCD battery and inserted a 5ah 5s li-po battery. Doesn't make much difference to the drill, bar last a couple of months, but for other tools like angle grinder/circular saw it helps a lot.

I like the massive range of not too expensive tools that all use the same battery.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 16 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use Makita at work, they take proper abuse and keep coming back for more. They do the hole through steel fine, not cheap though.

I'd probably go Ryobi for home use, I've heard some good things about them.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for the Ryobi one plus here, especially for home DIY use, I've had the hammer drill function on my combi go through bricks no bother, I'd also recommend the Ryobi bits for light use but for anything heavy get some proper bits.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another vote for Ryobi one plus here. Got both the hammer drill and 90 degree drill for plumbing a couple of years ago ....mostly because the 90 degree drill let's you drill thru joists with a 25mm paddle bit where you can't get a normal drill into....and both are still going strong and cost £100 for both with 2 battery's. Usually go hitatchi or makita but these have proved pretty damn robust with the option to use lipo battery's if required. Used on timber up to 35mm bit size and stone with up to 10mm bits and steel up to 13mm. Std battery's don't die like lipos do if you leave them charged and unused for a week!! Gets used for a fair amount of screwdriver use on timber etc as well
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Re: Recommend me a cordless drill Reply with quote

As already mentioned for the average DIY merchant Ryobi's will take most of what you will throw their way.
Personally I'd look for something with a Lithium Ion battery as they are much better for drills that can stand a long while without being used - ie, DIYer use.
Otherwise look for one with Nickel Metal Hydride battery (NiMH), avoid NiCads like the plague as they object to spending a long time not being used.

Otherwise just have done with it and get a Makita LXT 18v Lithium Ion drill, they are the mutts nuts and if you get all arts and crafty you can buy grinders and saws and all sorts that use the same batteries.
(A cordless grinder is the ultimate tool, great for chopping bike chains/disclocks should you lose the key Rolling Eyes )
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price for Ryobi and Makita seem to be pretty much the same for the same specs. Still looks like it's going to be £90-£100 for a decent one + 1 battery + charger and case.

This seems like it might be worth it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAKITA-18V-COMBI-DRILL-DHP453-LXT-1X1-5AH-1-/221893184112?hash=item33a9dd4a70:g:~0EAAOSwQTVV8q~7
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2272692.htm

I bought a worx 18v one from argos a few years ago, and i can't fault it. it's a good strong drill, I use it for all sorts of DIY task, including masonry and metal work and it has coped with everything I have thrown at it. It knocks spots of my corded black and decker corded drill.

their £50 now with 2 batteries, I paid double that for it when i bought it.
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makita.
My preferred brand of power tool.
Looking to buy a multi-cutter next.
It will be also be Makita.

In a past life, I was a plant manager for a large contractor that supplied tools to its workforce. I was
buying in power tools by the dozen from Hilti, Bosch, Makita et al. Makita had the best after sales service
by a country mile and they were also very competitive dealing with them at rep level. They honoured guarantee
claims with a brand new tool even if the damage was clearly down to mis-use or rough/careless treatment.
Brilliant firm to deal with at the level I was buying from them. As a smaller customer I buy my own tools
from them and have an online 'toolbox' with all my items listed by purchase date and warranty registration.
I tend to look after my tools and have yet to claim on warranty personally but I have complete confidence
I will receive the same level of care even now as a small fry customer should I ever have to. It took
a lot to drag me away from Bosch (Blue) but Makita managed it with consistently good products and top after sales.

My recommendation for medium to occasional heavy duty use

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Makita-DHP456RMJ-Combi-Drill-18V-Cordless-li-ion-2-Speed-Case-2-x-4Ah-Batts-/141808211290?hash=item21046d955a:g:FCYAAOSwI-BWKI3R
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
Price for Ryobi and Makita seem to be pretty much the same for the same specs. Still looks like it's going to be £90-£100 for a decent one + 1 battery + charger and case.

This seems like it might be worth it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAKITA-18V-COMBI-DRILL-DHP453-LXT-1X1-5AH-1-/221893184112?hash=item33a9dd4a70:g:~0EAAOSwQTVV8q~7


That's about as cheap as they come in the UK... 60 quid, brand new in the US, from the equivalent of B&Q Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1.4ah ryobi batteries I have are cack - the inbuilt protection cuts in really soon and overall you get way less time than the (admittadely twice the weight) NiCd. Ok, I don't have protection on my bodged 5ah, but 20C, so the 100A thus 1.8kw should satisfy most power requirements and they last way more than 3.5x as long
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using a Hitachi for the last few years - I bought it when we moved house so it got lots of use from disassembling/reassembling furniture to some fairly heavy building work (moving walls around type stuff).

Comes with a couple of LiIon batteries and a fast charger. Does everything I've needed it to do, including some light masonry work like drilling brickwork to fit a satellite dish (up a ladder I didn't want a cable). Two batteries means that when it slows down, you slap in the new one and put the first on charge. Unless you are doing heavy work with it, you can run all day like that.

For anything really heavy I go corded (hammer or SDS for big/deep holes in masonry) - but this will easily cope with 10mm holes in 3mm steel.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bamt wrote:
Does everything I've needed it to do, including some light masonry work like drilling brickwork to fit a satellite dish (up a ladder I didn't want a cable).


Top tip.... Despite being a pain in the butt using a corded drill, try to avoid using anything other than a dedicated hammer drill for masonry work, ideally with an SDS chuck, otherwise you will w*nker the chuck, it's just a matter of how quickly it happens.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to destroy a Ryobi a few years ago, but only by using it to put 600+ screws into a loft floor.
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another for Ryobi. My favourite so far is the Impact Driver.
Also buy some good drill bits and save yourself some problems.
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
bamt wrote:
Does everything I've needed it to do, including some light masonry work like drilling brickwork to fit a satellite dish (up a ladder I didn't want a cable).


Top tip.... Despite being a pain in the butt using a corded drill, try to avoid using anything other than a dedicated hammer drill for masonry work, ideally with an SDS chuck, otherwise you will w*nker the chuck, it's just a matter of how quickly it happens.


Hence saying for light work. They also really don't work well as well as the proper tool - an SDS will drill a hole through a wall almost as fast as it spins up, a cordless (or even corded) normal hammer takes a while. Right tool for the job and all that. The real point there is not to buy a "combi" drill expecting it to be fully competent in hammer mode; it'll work, but not great.

Definitely invest in good drill bits, and for anything other than trivial metal drilling some oil.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

More Ryobi love here. I've got a cordless hammer drill that must be 10 years old and I absolutely cannot kill it. I'm not a pretty diy'er, I'll happily use something that's almost right rather than go all the way back down to the garage to get the right tool. Goes like this:
Screw out of board
Nail out of board
Screw back into board
Run out of screws
unbend nail with Ryobi
Nail into board
etc, etc.

And it's mag-frickin-ificent at it.
You don't even need a new one. Get a SH one from somewhere and give it new batteries.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why cordless?

For jobs around the house, how far are you going to be from a mains outlet?

My De-walt corded drill has a 1000w motor in it and can fuck up most things faster than you think it could.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Why cordless?

For jobs around the house, how far are you going to be from a mains outlet?

My De-walt corded drill has a 1000w motor in it and can fuck up most things faster than you think it could.


Jobs around the house, the shed etc. Just for ease of use really. I know corded offer far more power for a lot less money but I still want a cordless.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note that there are quite a wide range of Ryobi One+ drills from 'drill drivers' to big SDS variants. When I thought I might need to buy a new one, I found a site listing the comparison between the different models, including power figures (I could start a generator with an old 24v aldi drill, but my Ryobi didn't have quite enough kick), unfortunately the beefiest ones seemed to be US models - and unfortunately I didn't actually need a new one anyway.

I've never used mine on Hammer mode.

I do go for a 240v drill for bigger jobs given the choice, but for most stuff the hassle saved with a battery drill is worth the extra cost for me.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

robs321 wrote:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd776c2-gb-18v-1-3ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill-xr/17648

This has 2 batteries, always a must have with cordless tools!


our engineering department uses these. i use these at home too.

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PostPosted: 12:04 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:


I got the DHP480RMJ. Cracking drill.

Go to a building site and look at what the pros use.

Mostly Makita with a few DeWalt and an occasional Bosch.

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PostPosted: 12:38 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used Bosch for a few year after a poor run with Makita`s,
I was using a 24v GSB something for a while, cracking drill until the apprentice dropped it,
I replaced it with this tiny(in comparison) 18v Bosch for £62 from B&Q, was on offer from around a ton,

It has to be one of the lightest and most powerful battery drill/drivers I have ever used,
It is perfect for all day work, it comes with 2 x 4 Ah Li Ion batteries.

https://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4146056.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59156|cid:189934405|agid:18091936165|tid:kwd-138428713525|crid:77627771125|nw:g|rnd:18146607761019473599|dvc:c|adp:1o3&gclid=CjwKEAiAvauyBRDwuYf3qNyXmW4SJACX9-fXLoDbkSYNeMhPW_UtM7xkGx5ZLlNgKhgEDWaJ6PLV2hoCEjzw_wcB

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