Misuse of police powers?

[wizzzard]

Since there isn't a forum called Ask Roger I'll stick this question in here.

Say you had a person who's past was chequered with a little wrongdoing here and there of the criminal variety and say this person met a woman who's brother happened to be a police officer.
If said brother used his position to go through the persons background and pass the information on to his sister and his parents would that be against the law and is there any way of proving that he accessed this information? Do officers have to log their numbers for instance when doing background checks?

The woman and her parents knew something about a specific incident that nobody at all other than the police knew and it has been used to stop the fella renting a house.

The crimes were all fighting related ( stupidity of youth) not sexual / theft and the like.
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[RhynoCZ]

Yes, this would be against the law. Proving the people you mentioned had the information from the police officer would be a problem. I do believe they do log into the system with their personal number of some sort, yes.

EDIT: Just building the answer on general knowledge of any legal state in the EU and knowing that people were prosecuted, in the past, for such a behaviour. (Might not 100% UK applicable)
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Yep, PNC access is logged and officers have to be able to justify the checks they make against it.

It's a job loser if they abuse it.

[ScaredyCat]

The landlord can run a DBS (CRB) check on him however he'd must fill out a form with his details on it, would need to be notified of it and would have to prove his identity too for this to be legal.

For old convictions (was he convicted?) - cautions and conditional cautions are not criminal convictions.

The following sentences become spent after fixed periods from the date of conviction.

If over 18 at the time of conviction

Prison sentence (including suspended sentences)– 6 mths to 2.5 yrs :: 10 yrs
Prison sentence (including suspended sentences)– 6 mths or less :: 7 yrs
Fines, probation, compensation, community service, reparation orders, curfew orders :: 5yrs
Absolute discharge :: 6 mths


if under 18 at the time of conviction

Prison sentence (including suspended sentences)– 6 mths to 2.5 yrs :: 5 yrs
Prison sentence (including suspended sentences)– 6 mths or less :: 3.5 yrs
Fines, probation, compensation, community service, reparation orders, curfew orders :: 2.5 yrs
Absolute discharge :: 6 mths


Custodial sentences* of more than two and a half years never become spent.


If he hasn't filled out any of this paperwork then you could probably prove that the landlord had done something illegal


The underlying question is that if they've done this and they think he's dodgy - he'll be getting the blame anything that happens in the house/flat, because "crim aint he". Might be better to find somewhere else to live.
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[Rogerborg]

[wizzzard]

Very much what I was hoping to hear thank you all muchly.

As far as the rented property goes he's not pursuing that as it's someone else's house and their choice whether they want him there or not.

I think he will be taking this further and I'll be advising him to purely on the grounds that's one more authority figure who thinks he's above the law taken down a peg.

Update will follow assuming we aren't both fitted up and banged up for ten years just after the complaint goes in
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[chris-red]

Hands up who wouldn't do it if they were this girl's brother...
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[Rogerborg]

[blueglue]

Yeah my old boss got sacked for doing it. Did not end well though.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234005/Former-police-inspector-Toby-Day-strangled-wife-year-old-daughter-stabbing-kitchen-knife.html

I used to get requests from the professional standards department all the time. You could get six requests in a week or non for several months. Generally you were informed after you were investigated what they were investigating (not by who though, so don't worry in that respect).

[blueglue]

on a side note please bear in mind Sarah and Clares Law.

[wizzzard]

[iooi]

[Rogerborg]

[pepperami]

[wizzzard]

[iooi]

[c_dug]

Clearly he was asking whether it was against the law for them to do so, as given away by the part where he asked if it was against the law for them to do so.

[wizzzard]

[CyrilSwan]

[Islander]

[Rogerborg]

[STONEY!]

With regards to how long things are stored for on the PNC I can tell you that at least in my case it appears to be NEVER lol

It was Halloween, I was 14 and after a few drinks and a bit of a smoke of the herbal variety, a few of my friends and I thought it would be a good idea to start the trick or treating early, namely by robbing pick and mix from the local woolworths.

I got a little cocky and tried to leave the store with pretty much the complete contents of the pick and mix stand. shortly after making my exit I was collared by a plain clothes security guard and dragged back to the security office.

The police where called and I got a bit of a stern talking to, just a verbal warning and that was that or so I thought.

Fast forward 3 years later and I get pulled over on my Cagiva Mito for having no L plates (not quite true I had them mounted upside down diagonally on the front and side of the bike to look like race number 7's). The police where ready to throw the book at me (race pipe, unrestricted, bigbore kit etc) but when the checked my history on the computer they both burst out laughing.

It turns out that halloween when I was 14 they did make a record of me and it has stuck there since........

According to the PNC I have green skin, red eyes, black and silver hair, purple fingers and a big scar on my forehead!

[J.M.]

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