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tiger blue
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Yamaha YBR - Metzler ME22s or Michelin Pilot Streets? Reply with quote

I picked up my YBR yesterday, all good so far. It's done slightly over 2000 miles (14-plate) and having done a bit of reading on here and elsewhere I've been looking at the tyres.

It's currently on Cheng Shins, which I'm sure are the originals. The front is on around 3.5mm and the rear around 2.5mm. I normally change my car tyres at about 2-2.5mm, and I've not heard a good word about wet performance for these tyres, other than from the guy showing me round the bike during handover.

It seems the main contenders for decent wet weather performance are Metzler ME22s and Michelin Pilot Streets. Does anyone have any experience with these models? The sizes for the YBR are 2.75x18 and 90/90 18.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using me22s on my AJS eco (a lot like a ybr) and been pretty impressed. Good grip in the wet, and good mileage out of them ( about 8000 miles before changing the rear, front is still going strong)

Never tried the Pilots so can't compare, sorry.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an ME22 on the front of the CBX250 and it would easily howl under braking, never felt very grippy, made the bike wander around at 80MPH and then slid away from me on a wet junction. I was not impressed.

I have also tried a Pilot Activ (not quite the same but close) on the front of my K100RS (okay, very different) and it seems very nice, soft compound and soft carcass yet keeps the bike in a straight line. Michelin can't go wrong these past few years, it seems.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 17 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pilot Streets were great on my OH's YBR. Knee down in the wet etc*


*might not have actually happened we sold it a while ago and my memory is hazy
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 18 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have run Michelins on my YBR for the past 3 years through all the weathers that we get. Held up well even in the snow last winter..
Never had any issues at all with them. Even in monsoon conditions.

So i will be staying with them.
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 19 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ME22 is an old tyre. Pilot Sporty Ftw.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 19 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
The ME22 is an old tyre. Pilot Sporty Ftw.


The Sports are old hat too. The Streets replaced them Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 19 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilLands wrote:
I've been using me22s on my AJS eco (a lot like a ybr) and been pretty impressed. Good grip in the wet, and good mileage out of them ( about 8000 miles before changing the rear, front is still going strong)

Never tried the Pilots so can't compare, sorry.


I had ME22's on the same bike (after crashing on the Ching Pings), the amount of grip they produced was scary good, particularly in the wet. I replaced them both at 6k with another set. Brilliant tyres, silly cheap.

Equally, can't comment on Pilot Street or Sport, but there are enough positive reviews of them to give confidence.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 25 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

basically, what everyone is saying is get rid of the Cheng Shits sharpish!

either brand will be an improvement. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 29 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fancy Michelin Pilot Streets.

Make sure you do not potato yourself and ride carefuly the first 100 miles the new tyres whatever you chose.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 29 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
...ride carefuly the first 100 miles the new tyres whatever you chose.


Why?

Are we talking about the urban myth that is tyre release compound? Pretty much confirmed as false if you do some interweb searches (people have actually asked manufacturers). Tyre moulds are lined with a Teflon non-stick surface nowadays and don't need a release compound.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 29 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They still need scrubbing in whatever the reason, urban myth or not. So it's still worth taking care for a number of miles.

I went from Chinese no brand to Michelin Pilot Street Radials on my old 125. £50 each for 110 front and 130 rear.

It completely transformed the bike, not just on grip but the feel from the steering, it was much more eager to lean, a smoother ride, and a huge improvement in every way as you would imagine.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 29 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't need scrubbing in. Just ride as you would. Stop being faggots. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 29 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Val wrote:
...ride carefuly the first 100 miles the new tyres whatever you chose.


Why?

Are we talking about the urban myth that is tyre release compound? Pretty much confirmed as false if you do some interweb searches (people have actually asked manufacturers). Tyre moulds are lined with a Teflon non-stick surface nowadays and don't need a release compound.


Because that is what manufacturer recommends:

https://motorcycle.michelin.com.au/advice/faq/about-the-purchase-and-use-of-my-tyres

Michelin motorcycle tires wrote:
Do I have to run my tyres in?

Yes. When new tyres are fitted, they need to be run in for the first 60 miles or so, gradually increasing the lean of the bike and keeping to a moderate speed before the tyre reaches optimum performance.


Obviously you know better maybe Rolling Eyes

FYI nothing to do with release compound. The actual tyre compound molecules need to pass certain numbers of heat cycle in order the tyre to get its optimum performance.
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