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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: The thing that bugs me most about winter driving Reply with quote

It's not the wind or the rain or the snow or the salt.

It's suicide stealth motorcyclists and scooters in the dark. Black jackets, black trousers, black boots, black helmet, just a little blob of white headlight bobbling along if you're lucky.

Diving across the road between cars, or toddling along the bypass in the gutter, entirely relying on traffic to see and avoid them, not a shred of effort made to make themselves visible or take any responsibility for themselves.

Rule Bleedin' 86!

https://assets.digital.cabinet-office.gov.uk/static/hc/hc_rule_86_help_yourself_to_be_seen.jpg

It's simply unreasonable to put the burden of their safety on us. Mad
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

"It's suicide stealth pedestrians in the dark. Black, black, black, black, just a little blob of white face bobbling along if you're lucky. "

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PostPosted: 14:18 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but you live in Scotland where electricity and electrical lighting are considered evil witchcraft and people get burned at the stake for that sort of thing.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suicidal pedestrians are not bad. It's the suicide cyclists in all black on the road that get me. (/got me)
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
It's the suicide bikers in all black on the road that get me. (/got me)

I know, right? Do they genuinely just not understand how hard that are to see, or do they feel such a sense of righteous entitlement that they don't care?
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add to the list stealthy dressed cyclists without any lights doing 30mph crossing lanes diagonally and/or jumping red light
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed a new pedestrian trend commuting home at 6am the past week. They dress all in black and carry a torch that must be hooked up to a fusion reactor giving it the power of 3 suns, upon hearing you coming along the road they proceed to beam it right in your face.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

we almost hit a bloke jogging wearing black running along a road that goes through a wooded area

he was also jogging away from traffic so couldn't see his face
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
he was also jogging away from traffic so couldn't see his face

I blame the parents.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend not to ride on the footpaths, so dont really have this problem . . .
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Yeah but you live in Scotland where electricity and electrical lighting are considered evil witchcraft and people get burned at the stake for that sort of thing.


I beg your Blacked-Oot Pudding.

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PostPosted: 01:09 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even in the city this happens though!

A few weeks ago I came too close for comfort in hitting a woman and her dog crossing the road. Pedestrian lights on red, my lights on green. Heavy flowing traffic, which I was a part of, not filtering. I had filtered to the front of the lights at the junction before mine went green.

It wasn't until I was half way across that I was able to see this woman in her entirely dark clothing, and her small dog walking behind her, slowly crossing the road.

I'm not sure too many people grasp the concept that in order to avoid accidents, it helps to make yourself seen. It really is hard to spot these nighttime ninjas sometimes.
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nearly mowed down a group of trick-or-treaters and a woman dressed as Morticia who had stepped into the road to stop traffic. Too late, I was past. Not one of them had the good sense to dress as Casper.
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll get the chance to be a ghost for real if they keep that up.

Vehicles aren't actually out to hit them, so why not make just a teeny tiny effort to do something to be seen? Why is it so hard for them to understand how vulnerable and invisible they are? Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Why is it so hard for them to understand how vulnerable and invisible they are? Brick Wall


Is your view the same if the parameters are changed? Biker instead of pedestrian?
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many of you lot wear day glo bibs or anything of the sort?


Eeeexactly. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enduro Numpty wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Why is it so hard for them to understand how vulnerable and invisible they are? Brick Wall


Is your view the same if the parameters are changed? Biker instead of pedestrian?


Shut it you.

As Bikers, we are quite at liberty to critique the actions of other road users.

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PostPosted: 18:21 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Enduro Numpty wrote:

Is your view the same if the parameters are changed? Biker instead of pedestrian?


Shut it you.

As Bikers, we are quite at liberty to critique the actions of other road users.


^^^ This. Have you seen think pedestrian ad? No. That makes us very special.

Not to mention no bikers wear lycra. I rest my case. Folded arms
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator. wrote:
How many of you lot wear day glo bibs or anything of the sort?


I have bright lights on my motorcycle and bicycle.

I do not cycle in the road without my lights turned on.

Day glo bibs or not, unlit cyclists at 6am can fuck right of.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator. wrote:
How many of you lot wear day glo bibs or anything of the sort?


Eeeexactly. Laughing


Fact of having a decent light that people can see makes a great difference.....

I pass a cyclist every morning who has a single LED as his rear light. Not very bright. But would help if it was mounted where it could be seen and not under his saddle with the mudguard blocking it totally out when you are behind him....
Tried to tell him, but he just ignored me....
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
instigator. wrote:
How many of you lot wear day glo bibs or anything of the sort?


Eeeexactly. Laughing


Fact of having a decent light that people can see makes a great difference.....

I pass a cyclist every morning who has a single LED as his rear light. Not very bright. But would help if it was mounted where it could be seen and not under his saddle with the mudguard blocking it totally out when you are behind him....
Tried to tell him, but he just ignored me....


Hoof him up the arse as you pass him.

Should get his attention at least.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I've had a number of near misses with 'invisible' cyclists whilst either on a bike or in a car............one day I might just get me one!
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator. wrote:
How many of you lot wear day glo bibs or anything of the sort?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3329155/Poundworld-fined-70-000-selling-1-High-Vis-jackets-logo-safe-seen-not-actually-reflective.html

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PostPosted: 21:51 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:


They took a 'Pounding' there.


DYSWID?

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PostPosted: 10:13 - 23 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enduro Numpty wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Why is it so hard for them to understand how vulnerable and invisible they are? Brick Wall

Is your view the same if the parameters are changed? Biker instead of pedestrian?

Shhh!
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