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 Posted: 13:10 - 24 Nov 2015 Post subject: Has anyone ever sued a pedestrian? |
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Back in February a drunk pedestrian ran out in front of me on a dual-carriageway.
I had minor injuries, he had more serious injuries and my bike was damaged.
The police investigated at the time and found no evidence of any blame on my part.
I claimed on my own insurance for the damage to the bike and that was that.
Now 9 months on, Mr Pedestrian has found himself an ambulance-chasing lawyer who is trying to sue me (or at least my insurers) for compensation – making all sorts of wild allegations of speeding, dangerous driving etc etc (none of which they can prove of course).
I know that they're just trying it on to get a few grand out of my insurance, and it's not going to cost me personally, but it is putting me to inconvenience (and form-filling) and hell, I was injured too, I'm out of pocket and it was his fault.
I was going to let it go, but now he's being a dick about it, I'm tempted to stick in a counter claim just because.
Has anyone ever done this, and if so what was the outcome? ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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I would do it as much as possible. You did the right thing, and now he's trying to shaft you. I hope you have success. ____________________ Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX |
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As I see it, with the police reports etc., you can't lose this one. I'd go for it and sue. I'd also demand a compensation for non-material damage, that you don't feel well since then, psychically, and the recent actions of the pedestrian made you feel bad again etc.
This is a typical lawyer scum move right there. He must be certain he can't win any litigation, yet he does not care because he is paid by hour not for him winning. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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 Posted: 13:39 - 24 Nov 2015 Post subject: |
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I see there are such cases:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4124617
Pedestrian is no different then any other party.
It is about establishing liability by the judge.
It is important that first you contest their claim, because it appears they are trying to establish some kind of fault of you. Actually they could have filled "Non fault" injury claim against your insurance and still get some money. Which is fine.Just make sure your insurance company contest their attempt for your fault based injury 3rd party claim.
You also can do counter claims one to get excess money and one for your personal injury.
You can do that via your insurance company, but they usually use crappy 3rd party lawyers.
It is better to get good no win no fee lawyer like White Dalton to do your claims.
Get good lawyer and do it.
He may be covered by his personal 3rd party insurance (like home ones) in which case you will get your money from his insurance company. ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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Yup, another vote for go for it. You can sue anyone, or try to. I'd suggest a trip to CAB though to get some solid grounds on what you need to do and how you can accomplish this.
And yes, the Police reports will be a huge ball in your court. ____________________ Current bike - GSX-R1000 k8 |
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 Posted: 13:45 - 24 Nov 2015 Post subject: Re: Has anyone ever sued a pedestrian? |
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| DJP wrote: | I claimed on my own insurance for the damage to the bike and that was that. |
Careful now, that'll be recorded as "rider at fault" because no recovery was made.
You'll want to have a good talk with your insurer. Have you got everything written down from the time of the incident?
I expect you weren't given a copy of any police report. You can ask your local force for it, although you may end up paying a £10 Subject Access Request fee.
Suing him, well, fire away. Just the facts, your losses and how much you want. Sadly, I doubt you'll ever see a penny even if you win. It'd be the good fight though.
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Something I've never been able to determine is whether you can instruct your underwriter to not indemnify you. Or if they do it without your agreement whether you can then recover your consequent increased insurance costs from them.
arry? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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If said claimant is indeed being such a poop stick I would agree he needs to be put straight,
Recommendation to OP: put up a fight and counter sue for damages, injury, emotional distress and the kitchen sink...
Extra lollz if claimant is not covered by insurance (which although detrimental to OP ever seeing a penny is +++ for Karma justices!).
In all seriousness, some people are just jockeys who will do anything to get a few bucks out of anyone and everyone for anything what so ever.
Said jockeys deserve everything they get and hopefully if they get a big bill on their matt they may reconsider their future conduct towards others...
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Somebody probably Sickpup wrote something about writing to their solicitors about them trying it on and accusing them of fraud which would stop them in their tracks.
Something like that?
THEN you sue them back. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Interesting twist in the story line, so the drunk pedestrian becomes the allegedly drunk pedestrian, therefore sober in the court of law, I'm afraid.
Well, I can't speak for the court, I've never been to any UK court, but as this is not criminal proceedings, I think the witness statement of a respected member of society (the off-duty police officer) should be enough to support your case. Even if not, I do suppose pedestrians are not allowed to cross the dual-carriageway just like that, crossing the rails, fences and so on. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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| RhynoCZ wrote: | Interesting twist in the story line, so the drunk pedestrian becomes the allegedly drunk pedestrian, therefore sober in the court of law, I'm afraid.
Well, I can't speak for the court, I've never been to any UK court, but as this is not criminal proceedings, I think the witness statement of a respected member of society (the off-duty police officer) should be enough to support your case. Even if not, I do suppose pedestrians are not allowed to cross the dual-carriageway just like that, crossing the rails, fences and so on. |
Pedestrians are only 'not allowed to walk on Motorways' by law.
They can wander about any other road at will and other road users are responsible to take care for them.
|Even though they are not allowed to walk on motorways (by law) there is one case I know detail of where a driver who was a medical Doctor hit some fcuker who was crossing a motorway. Someone was killed and the judge blamed the driver. The driver got the blame because he admitted as evidence in court that he peeped his horn to warn the people crossing the motorway. The judge ruled that if he seen them he should have been able to stop. That was the ruling.
Normally pedestrians have very strong protection of the law. Whether they are careful or careless.
That is why only a fool breaks a thirty MPH rool in town.  ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 180 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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