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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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 Posted: 10:55 - 24 Nov 2015 Post subject: Tool Suggestions |
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I've recently bought a house and will be moving out from my rents this means, I have to bulk up my tools, as I haven't bothered with basics as dad had them all. I was also planning to get decent stuff although without breaking the bank.
So far I have a facom Allen Key set and a Teng 1/4 Ratchet set. I do have other tools I have bought over the years. I.e. decent bit sets, chain breakers, tap and dies etc. But I want to get basics sorted before I move in.
I feel I 'need' either a 1/2 Socket set or a 3/8 set and a 1/2 ratchet.
I can't decide dad just had 1/4 (up to 12) and 1/2 (from 10 up). But I have also bought myself 27/30/32/36 sockets as dads didn't go that high. so am trying to decide what would be best.
I also want Spanners, Dad has a ring set and a what I would call a normal spanner i.e. one end open ended 12 the other open 13. Everything now seems to be combination any reason for this?
a Screw driver set would also be required, I'm not really sure what to get here.
Is it worth spending decent money on something like a hammer/mallet? I can't really see how a £100 hammer could be much better than a say a £10 hammer.
Either way I'm not in a massive rush, I'm just getting stuff where I think I see a good deal. I'm not on the tools every day or even every weekend. But I want all the essentials I get to last my life. Dads Sockets/Spanners are all older than me and made by Britool they have been fantastic and nothing has broken even with the last 10 years of my ham fisted efforts.
That being said I can't spend fortunes, I'm happy with the quality of the Facom and Teng Stuff it looks really good and wasn't earth shatteringly expensive.
Any suggestions? ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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| chris-red |
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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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3/8s is fine for most things bike. unless you have a single sided swing arm where torque is high for the rear wheel nut.
Clarke stuff seem to be fairly prevalent in my tool box, their pro stuff come with a lifetime warranty (except the ratchets). I do have a 1/2" extendable Clarke ratchet which I stood on the end of to undo the centre nut of a scooter, I weighed 10.5 stone at the time. the thing took it easily and did not skip any teeth on the ratchet so their gear seems to hold up fine.
if you can, try and get it all on machine mart VAT free thinging, you have to spend over £50 but just as well if you need to get a fair bit. we don't have much in the way of tool sellers locally, its either machine mart or halfrauds, after that, its online. ____________________ Current rides - 2016 Triumph Street Triple Rx, 1994 Suzuki Bandit 400 VM, TGB 204 Classic 125cc
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don't forget a good all in one screwdriver
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I have a fairly pragmatic approach to tools. most of the stuff i have i carry around in the boot of my jeep on trials etc, and hasn't failed me yet:
1/4" halfords pro socket set - get some deep sockets too, they can be a godsend.
3/8" cheap socket set - only ever gets used where i cant fit my 1/2" ratchet, or for my allen/torx sockets.
1/2" socket set - britool i think. used for most things apart from small stuff.
halfords pro screwdriver set - it was free with oil lol also have a cheap screwdriver set as unlikely to kill them really. get a stubby flat and #2 posi one, theyre great for small places.
decent hacksaw
1/2" breaker bar. great for axle nuts etc.
pliers, mole grips, side cutters
ratchet crimping tools
circlip pliers
punch set
allen keys
decent stanley knife
magnetic pick up tool
small lump hammer
ballpein hammer
impact driver (the type you belt with the lump hammer)
i haven't come across any jobs that has required much more than the above tbh, and after much abuse, even the cheap tools havent failed me. the one thing i will say though, is get as many 6 sided sockets as you can, as the 12 point ones do have a tendency to round off bolt heads/nuts. ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
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| Tracey Suntan-King |
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I only buy quality tools usually the halfords advanced range when I need them rather than buying shit I won't need or use on the bike.
My tools bar a socket set and rubber mallet plus a few other bits live under the seat.
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I have that set of drills, I use them mainly for fitting kitchens as my 18 volt stuff tends to be a bit heavy handed! You can pick them up for less money than that too! |
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You need a range of different hammers.
- Normal hammer.
- Dead blow hammer.
- Club hammer.
- Rubber mallet.
- Sledge hammer.
A folding set of allen keys is very useful.
1/4 inch sockets up to 14 or 15, 1/2 sockets down to 10 or 12.
Combination spanners give you the closed ring which if there's enough space is much better than using the open end of the spanner.
For screw drivers you just want to get a half decent quality set with a wide enough range of different sizes.
You also need an angle grinder. Actually no, better make one of each size.  |
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| Ste wrote: | You need a range of different hammers.
- Normal hammer.
- Dead blow hammer.
- Club hammer.
- Rubber mallet.
- Sledge hammer.
A folding set of allen keys is very useful.
1/4 inch sockets up to 14 or 15, 1/2 sockets down to 10 or 12.
Combination spanners give you the closed ring which if there's enough space is much better than using the open end of the spanner.
For screw drivers you just want to get a half decent quality set with a wide enough range of different sizes.
You also need an angle grinder. Actually no, better make one of each size.  |
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The leather strip handle eventually shrinks or picks up cuts and nicks, then it goes loose or pinches the skin but worse of all is the stupid high pitched 'ding' noise, and they cost more than the Stanley 16oz Nailmaster or 20oz Steelmaster which are better claw hammers.
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| Howling Terror wrote: | The leather strip handle eventually shrinks or picks up cuts and nicks, then it goes loose or pinches the skin but worse of all is the stupid high pitched 'ding' noise, and they cost more than the Stanley 16oz Nailmaster or 20oz Steelmaster which are better claw hammers.
ding-ding-ding-ding-ding all day long.  |
yep they are crap but when I was an apprentice in a joiners shop it was the standing joke
"What did you use to do that, an Estwing"  ____________________ I have become comfortably numb
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Do what I do and fish around at auto-jumbles and car-boot sales.
There is a lot of shite out there, but in amongst it are some real little gems.
For example, I picked up 6 different sized, six-sided sockets (good quality) for £2 the other week.
I also picked up a brand new chain breaker, still in it`s packet for a measly quid  ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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| sickpup wrote: | | Matt B wrote: | Tools - a minefield. |
Yes it is and Chris you need to give us some more guidance here. Do you have a budget, do you want to buy average tools and replace them every few years or do you want to buy premium tools and have them last for ever?
My latest purchase was a set of these which cost me £110 second hand but I dread to think what they would have cost me new.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Odds%20and%20ends/IMG-20151125-WA0000.jpeg
Probably bigger than the photo shows, they go from 1/4 all the way to 1 1/4
I have my old toolbox which I got about 18 years ago, need another of about twice the size and the two together still won't hold my tool kit.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Odds%20and%20ends/20151015_213112.jpg
I also have a large selection of Dewalt power tools. Had mine over 15 years and still going strong but then they should be, they cost a fortune when I got them.
Personally if someone tried to use Silverline spanners on any of my vehicles in anything other than an emergency I would stab them, they are rubbish. As to G's further comment about AF sockets, some of us like working on old cars so they are useful which is why I just bought the above.
So what do you want to do Chris, do you want to buy average or do you want to go premium? and then you have to decide if you want to fit out the garage properly so you have somewhere comfortable to work or if you want to stay struggling |
With most things there seems to be a point in which the price point skyrockets and the quality is barely better, I want to be around there somewhere.
I don't have a budget I'll spend what I need to spend, that said I don't want to have my pants pulled down, but I want stuff to last. The Facom and the Teng set both seem decent, so I want to stay around that quality point. I'm not in any rush and I will not be picking loads of stuff up at once, I'm after deals I suppose. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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Here is a quick comparison picture of various brands of sockets.
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/2013-12-02_12.45.47.jpg
Top row Teng, Snap-on, Facom
Bottom row Bergen, Kamasa, Halfords
The Snap-on and Facom are head and shoulders above the others in quality and yet the Facom are around the same price as the Teng and are easier to get, cheaper, easier to warranty than Snap-on and you don't cause a snap-on man to die of obesity.
Saying they are cheaper is of course relative, I am looking at spending £500 on metric deep sockets and around a thousand on various imperial tools but they will never need replacing other than warranty, theft or loss in my life time.
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Essential tools for any job.... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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The big mechanic tool kit halfords sell normally on offer about £100. Had it like 10 years now and not had any problems with it.
Only real problem is the spine of the case has snapped so that's duct tapped up  |
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| sickpup wrote: | Here is a quick comparison picture of various brands of sockets.
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/2013-12-02_12.45.47.jpg
Top row Teng, Snap-on, Facom
Bottom row Bergen, Kamasa, Halfords
The Snap-on and Facom are head and shoulders above the others in quality and yet the Facom are around the same price as the Teng and are easier to get, cheaper, easier to warranty than Snap-on and you don't cause a snap-on man to die of obesity.
Saying they are cheaper is of course relative, I am looking at spending £500 on metric deep sockets and around a thousand on various imperial tools but they will never need replacing other than warranty, theft or loss in my life time.
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I've been looking at the rolling cabinets but they seem obscenely priced. I do not see why a rolling box with a few draws should be £400
On the Facom Socket sets. I just did a quick comparison.
I bought this,
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004UEHCMG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
I paid £27
Facom similar
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Facom-FCMR360NANO-R-360NANOPB-4-inch-Socket/dp/B007QESEGA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448640170&sr=8-2&keywords=Facom
Further looking seems like there are different levels of Facom.
e.g.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Facom-2-inch-Ratchet-Socket-Set/dp/B008B8BG6K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448640569&sr=8-2&keywords=Facom+socket ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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