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Cagiva Mito
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 10 Feb 2005    Post subject: Scotoiler's Reply with quote

Hi all,

I am thinking of getting a scotoiler for my bike but have a few questions to anybody that has one.

1.) Do they stick out like a sore thumb? I dont want something hanging off the side of my bike ruining the look.

2.) Somebody told me that a lot of oil gets sprayed on the swing arm and I dont wanna be constantly cleaning it off.

Any comments welcome.

Cheers Cool
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Will87
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 10 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can usually hide them, just takes a bit of imaginative thinking. My dad's trophy has the touring model with large resivoir and it sits pretty nicely behind the number plate.

It won't go all over the swing arm if you adjust it properly.
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allweatherbik...
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 10 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Scottoiler is fitted under the seat on my GS500 and is barely noticable down at the sprocket. The back wheel and swing arm get a bit mucky but its preferable to an unlubricated chain.

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fuzz
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 10 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had some trouble with the Scottoiler. First off, position the pipe that feeds the oil to the sprocket well away from the sprocket nuts and the chain. They say to position it 2mm above the chain. 5mm is probably better. I've found that you have to bend the pipe by putting it under a lighter first, and kinda curl it onto the sprocket. It took me about six attempts over four months to get this right. I've had many problems with the pipe getting stuck in the chain/caught on a nut and being yanked out.

Second thing, make sure you secure the RMV to the swingarm well. I hit some roadworks at night once and ended up with a crack down the RMV, which led to oil all over the swingarm and not on the chain. They replaced it under warranty though. Thumbs Up

It is very easy to tuck out of sight, all you can see on mine is the RMV above the swingarm and a blue pipe going to the rear wheel, very neat. If you meter the amount of oil right you should not have any problems with it going everywhere (unless the RMV cracks of course Laughing )
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 10 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can place a Scott oiler reservior where the number plate is fitted onto the fender and then fit the number plate on the Scott oiler itself.

The oil is drawn out at a very slow trickle only when the bike is moving. So the oiler is good for long distance travelling through wet/hot weather. You just make sure the reservior is full or has plently of oil before going on a long journey.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are a worthwhile accessory and you can tuck them away neatly if you wish (although this makes it more difficult to fill.)

In my opinion, fitting one doesn't ruin the 'look' of a bike anyway. More gives the impression that "Here is someone who uses their bike and knows what a good bit of kit is.". Did I mention the BHP increase? They increase your BHP at the back wheel.

You do get splatter on the back wheel and swingarm, it washes off OK though and keeps it from rusting. Saves you a fortune in chains and sprockets.
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard they gave you an extra 20hp at the wheel.

On a serious note however I really should buy one, they are a great bit of kit!
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PostPosted: 02:58 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey ,

ive got a scottoiler on my R6 and it doesnt spoil the looks at all .

Unless your actually looking for it , you wouldnt know it was there

all you can see is a thin see thru pipe along the swingarm


a good investment i reckon and means the more forgetful of us have one less thing to remember
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Cagiva Mito
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks alot for all of your replys. Looks like im gonna get one then.
Is there any particular one to get ( I have a 125 if that makes any difference)
Are they pretty easy to fit.

Cheers Cool
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

universal kit, fits everybike, ive got one, bit of a bastard to fit and adjudt but glad i got it.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one, not fitted it yet but personally don't mind having the RMV outside of the seat or away from behind the numberplate. It's there to do a job and a good job it does too (aparently) so if someone says "haha, you have a scottoiler" i'd just say "yes, and it pays for itself twice over every year"

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PostPosted: 15:34 - 14 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a lucky b****rd, it came fitted on my new bike. Such a good installation didn't even see it. Cool
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 14 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
I heard they gave you an extra 20hp at the wheel.



If only! I'd stick one on the Buell Wink Wink

What they do is help alleviate friction losses in O ring chains, which can subtract up to 20BHP compared with non-O ring chains. Not quite the same as adding 20bhp. Smile

If they splatter oil too much it's OK to back off on the manufacturer's recommended settings. I've bored people on other forums with this - but Scottoiler make money selling oil, not selling scottoilers.
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jonboy
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 14 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard there are some alternative ones now that actually connect to the ignition system and vary the drip rate according to the speed of the bike, to try and avoid the mess. Might be worth looking at before 'splashing' out *groan*
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 14 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just clean your chain completely and then apply some "PROFI DRY LUBE" to the chain. It's a dry lubricant, in spray form and it dries and protects, rather like a film, over the chain. Repels any muck on the chain and only really needs to be put on every 400 miles or so (bit more frequent when in a hefty downpour)

Probably a good bit cheaper, for the amount of time you keep the bike for.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 14 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that not just chain wax Confused

When you're riding big miles, 400 miles sounds about right for a lube anyway, (though I do try to at 200 miles).
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 14 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
Why not just clean your chain completely and then apply some "PROFI DRY LUBE" to the chain. It's a dry lubricant, in spray form and it dries and protects, rather like a film, over the chain. Repels any muck on the chain and only really needs to be put on every 400 miles or so (bit more frequent when in a hefty downpour)

Probably a good bit cheaper, for the amount of time you keep the bike for.


Because in realy shitty conditions grit stick to it and turns it into grinding paste, after a few hundred miles of hard riding it is all gone anyway any your chain lands up totally knackered.

I rode my bike from Canterbury to Edinburgh one summer in a oner with 'splash and go' fuel stops. When I arrived in Edinburgh my chain that I adjusted and lubed with chain wax (and checked for tight spots of which there were none) before I left was completley and utterly shagged. By the time I got to Aberdeen the next day it was hooking up on the teeth occasionally.

A scotoiler on the other hand cleans any muck out of the chain as the oil is being constantly replaced. I had a scotoiler on my bike for my run to the dragon rally this weekend and the chain is the only part of the bike not to be caked in salt and shit. Wax aint going to repel that lot!
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