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PostPosted: 04:08 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Aldi "action camera" £30 Reply with quote

hi,
as per title, aldi has an "action camera" on sale from today (iirc)
at 30 quid its a wee bit dearer than the cheap chinese versions but aldi supplies a memory card & its waterproof (unlike the cheaper chinese knockoffs) but more importantly, it has a 3yr warranty.
worth a punt, no?

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PostPosted: 05:21 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picture' OK, bit wobbler than I'd hoped on the handle-bar, but acceptable.
Sound? So-So.
Low-light performance is at best 'dire' and come sun-set, forget it. Works great on a sunny day; in over-cast or low raking light, t cant handle the contrast too well, and in low light come dusk, its useless.
Battery span a tad short. Lasts just long enough to almost fill the 4gb micro-SD. - Annoyingly, if battery dies whilst recording, segment is corrupt & segments are I think 30 mins long.
Runs off battery; you cant run it off a wire as far as I can tell, & you'd have to cut the water-proof 'enclosure' to get a wire in, if you tried.

Not an utter waste of time, and probably fair VFM for £30.. it was more successful than an old compact camera on a old L-bracket on the bars..

Whether its worth it depends what you want to do, and how much you value doing it. I just wanted to shut Snowie up asking me what her riding was like, and not believing me, or arguing with me when I told her what her road position was like, or where she was over-braking on approaches to corners and stuff... worked well enough for that, but I wouldn't expect to make broadcast quality home movies with the thing!
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably is fine given the fact its there and you do not need to wait for delivery.

If you can afford the wait you can buy seriously good camera for £40 which will be miles better video quality:

https://www.gearbest.com/action-cameras/pp_219132.html?currency=GBP&gclid=Cj0KEQiAj8uyBRDawI3XhYqOy4gBEiQAl8BJbWp34ycJZs-Ij_BOw65mTB3zkr7nEJj-W2SmXfsV1YMaAqQb8P8HAQ
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
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Waterproof as per the one the OP is talking about? Certainly doesn't look it from the pics, and waterproof cases are available so guess not.

£43 for the camera, £10 for a card, £15 for a waterproof case = not looking quite so cheap now.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReVality Distortion Field.


Review of the Aldi one here, if you want to assume it's the same model. Video quality is potato. Green, mouldy potato.

https://ride.io/reviews/aldi-action-camera-review/
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: Aldi "action camera" £30 Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
worth a punt, no?


"No" appears to be the correct answer...
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't the SJ4000's about £40? I've heard they're pretty good. Think they come with water 'resistant' cases but probably no SD card.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

'water resistant' = "Lets water in, but not straight away" in my experience.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My SJ4000 is about 18 months old, used through all weathers and has remained dry.

Havent taken it swimming mind but certainly weatherproof.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Picture' OK, bit wobbler than I'd hoped on the handle-bar, but acceptable.
Sound? So-So.
Low-light performance is at best 'dire' and come sun-set, forget it. Works great on a sunny day; in over-cast or low raking light, t cant handle the contrast too well, and in low light come dusk, its useless.
Battery span a tad short. Lasts just long enough to almost fill the 4gb micro-SD. - Annoyingly, if battery dies whilst recording, segment is corrupt & segments are I think 30 mins long.
Runs off battery; you cant run it off a wire as far as I can tell, & you'd have to cut the water-proof 'enclosure' to get a wire in, if you tried.

Not an utter waste of time, and probably fair VFM for £30.. it was more successful than an old compact camera on a old L-bracket on the bars..

Whether its worth it depends what you want to do, and how much you value doing it. I just wanted to shut Snowie up asking me what her riding was like, and not believing me, or arguing with me when I told her what her road position was like, or where she was over-braking on approaches to corners and stuff... worked well enough for that, but I wouldn't expect to make broadcast quality home movies with the thing!

hi,
so you already have this camera? exact same model?
how long have you had it?
seriously, im quite interested in your review (I'll go back & read your post properly as I just skimmed through it, as I do with all your posts/replies Smile )

given the price, I think it might be handy as a "2nd" camera or even as a temporary 1 (I dont have any kind of camera just now)
what makes it good value (imho) = waterproof camera, a 3yr warranty & sd card all for 30 quid & no p & p to pay or waiting for a delivery from China.

I know you get what you pay for (generally) but if 1 of those chinese or sj4000's just happened to develop a fault in, say 2 &1/2 yrs, you'd be chucking it away whereas, aldi have a very good returns policy Smile
i might just buy 1 & if it's totally crap then I'll return it but if it records half decent quality vids, even just in daytime then I'll keep it (& see if I can get a better camera as a xmas prezzie lol)

im certainly not paying for a gopro but wouldnt mind a drift or even one of those "bullet cams" because they are a bit more discrete than having half a brick shaped camera on the top of my helmet (ohh er)

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PostPosted: 23:28 - 03 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/11401039_1006696166021967_2610454087434441922_n.jpg?oh=be7c6b4af73e5a68de9c2d943d6f22a0&oe=56DD6920
That one, cable-tied on the brake res.
Not sure about sticking it on my hat.. the mount is slotted for straps, but no straps in the box. + I wear a flip.. where could stick it?!
Box says "Maginon - vision HD Video resolution 1280x720
90 minutes recording
4x dgital zoom
135Deg Wide Angle Lens
3 year warranty
4Gb micro SD
Helmet Mount
Underwater Housing

And Snowie got me to get it from Aldi, in the Spring and I paid about £30 for it, so I guess its the same one. certainly sounds similar!

If you want t use it as a stills camera? Forget it! Its dire. it really is. have a ten year old 5Mpix compact, that doesn't even have a lens, that takes better stills, and has a flash!

Photographically, I'd say its 'about' the equivalent of a mediocre phone-camera... if that, with convenience of being a stand-alone device, in specialist housing you can attach to a bike or hat or canoe or whatever, and cheaper than a camera-phone. Over-The-Counter convenience, as you say, rather than waiting around for one to turn up from China of e-bay, and cheaper than anything n Argos.

As alluded to; before I got it, to show Snowie what she was up to on the italian-tractor; I had cut up an old L-Bracket and bolted it to the brake lever clamp, so I could attach a conventional compact to the handle-bars on the tripod mount... First one tried was that old lens-less 'Vivitar' copy, that proved the principle, but ever took great video, and vibration saw to go completely to pot at every harmonic engine revs! A 'better' Kodak compact I had salvaged from the smashed remains of two the kids broke, worked better.. but the camera was fucked before I began, and again, vibration did for what was left of it! Daughter then bequeathed me a Cannon sure-shot compact, that sort of worked but no image stabilisation, vibrato was still pretty bad;. Then I stole Snowie's Nikon Bridge-Thing, always considered a better video camera than stills compact, it was promising, but too heavy for the bars, and IS just couldn't cope. Hence, Snowie's suggesting that £30 for an out the box' solution, might be worth a punt. So I punted, and yeah.. sort of does the job. Maybe not all I had hoped; as sad it hasn't got the HD quality implied, certainly not that of the stolen Bridge or our SLR's, but then little probably has.

Ultimately, its all subjective, and its a £30 camera, how good do you expect it to be!

I have spent four times that, this year, on silver-halide film and developing chemicals, with no greater expectation of getting anything 'useful' from it... so what the heck?

Lets not try kidding ourselves this is in any way a 'serious' bit of photographic equipment! And as your 'only' camera? Well, I wouldn't put the 'action cam' qualifications of the 'underwater enclosure' and pritt-pad hat mount as worth the compromises on photo-resolution or sensitivity you would get from even a £50 compact camera.

EXIF data tells me it has a 4.5mm focal length lens; so its reliant on that incredibly short focal length to deliver very large depth of focus, to effectively make it 'focus free' rather than auto-focus, and to get a the 'wide angle' Field-of-View, a very large crop-factor, from a TINY sensor, probably a 'phone-cam sized micro-sensor.

So as a cut-down, and re-packaged 'phone-cam, and not a particularly high end one, image quality on a par with that makes sense and is 'acceptable'... if that's all you expect from it.

Sowie got a £20 bullet cam from China.. the had to buy an SD card for it.... no screen on it, bit hit and miss trying to mount it level! NOT that t mattered mush.. Italian tractor managed to keep vibrating it around inside its bezil anyway! Not as high resolution, and no better image stabilisation (Though Italian-Tractor wasn't exactly giving it an easy time!)

So I would hazard, that in this sub £50 price range, nothing is goig to be particularly fantastic; and fro what I have seen, to start getting a awful lot 'better' you have to go an awful log way up the market.

But, bottom line is its a action cam. Its not a 'proper' general purpose camera. And its a cheap one.

I would not try using it as my 'only' camera. And even as 2nd or back-up? Well, if I needed luggage space and had to leave the SLR at home? wouldn't think " Its OK, I have the Aldi-cam on the Handlebars".. I'd be slipping the Cannon Compact in my pocket, or trying to find a bit of extra space for the Nikon Bridge-Thing! Or even asking my daughter if she had her 'Smart-Phone'!
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 04 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGs1 wrote:
I bought this it's good enough for insurance purposes and has a viewing screen so you don't have to fuck about with a laptop to watch back footage.

I made an offer of £40 which was accepted.

Also I don't look like a gimp with it cable tied around the chin bar/plonked on the top of my helmet.

https://i.imgur.com/my6BZi5.jpg


hi,
that looks good.
I'll look into it as soon as I have finished this post.
what has put me off buying those big square cameras is simply because I don't want half a brick on my helmet (I have 3 or 4 helmets that I use regularly) & grudge having to pay silly money for that "privilege" but for 30 quid, maybe.
my original plan was to get a "bullet cam" anyway until I seen the aldi special.

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PostPosted: 15:10 - 04 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
loads, some of it helpful Smile


hi,
im just looking for a cheap camera I can mount on my helmets & if it doesnt come with a suitable mounting bracket, im sure I can bodge one up.
I know its only a small sd card but I could swap it out for a 32g card I already have.
not looking for david bailey quality still images, just want it to record car reg's in case of accidents etc.
a cheap camera is better than no camera, right?

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PostPosted: 06:31 - 05 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
im just looking for a cheap camera I can mount on my helmets & if it doesnt come with a suitable mounting bracket, im sure I can bodge one up.

In the box you get the camera; that goes into the water-proof enclosure, which has a tripod mount on the bottom. You then get the mount (in the box) which is like a bit of flexible plastic with slots in it, and a pillar with a flex-hinge in the middle that screws into the tripod thread in the bottom of the water-proof enclosure.

It's all there, you shouldn't have to bodge anything to attach to a hat; just glue the 'base' to it with double-sided stiky-tape (that also comes in the box)

Base has slots to attach to a hat-strap, (Belt, body-harness, wrist strap, whatever) if you prefer, they just aren't included in the box.
stirlinggaz wrote:
I know its only a small sd card but I could swap it out for a 32g card I already have.

It takes micro-SD's, and I thk 32Gb is as big as it will accept without checking the manual for it. But yeah. That's what I did. Only niggle with t is that the battery does't last long enough to record that much footage!
Box says 90-min, but practice, it's probably closer to and hour of 'reliable' record time from a charge.
stirlinggaz wrote:
not looking for david bailey quality still images, just want it to record car reg's in case of accidents etc.
a cheap camera is better than no camera, right?

Lol! Here lies a route to madness.... "Any Camera is better than no Camera" and so you start using a camera, and its NEVER good enough!
Hence, from where I am sitting I have more than half a dozen cameras within reach... and that's not excluding the potato in my 'phone or the Aldi-Cam, or the ones my daughter has nicked to go chuck balloons filled with water at, or whatever it is she is doing with them for her A-Levels! Its a slippery slope GAZ, be warned!

Aldi-Cam? Yeah; likely 'fit-for-purpose' suggested. And probably as good or better than many in that price range.

As to the 'Telly-Tubby' box on your head 'thing'? The little brick on a stalk on your head, doesn't seem a great idea to my thinking either.. though in the early naughties, I did look at my first digi-compact, and the peak of my trials hat ad have some 'oy-dee-uz' but...

As said, I wear a flip, so there's no practical way to really attach a cam to my hat, and still be able to flip it. And I'm not so sure I want to. Watching hat-cam footage tends to drive me a bit scatty, the FoV jumping around all over the place. I also find it difficult to discern what's going on with the bike, the 'points of reference'constantly shifting with the rider; hence have bar-mounted; camera fixed to the bike, the FoV is that much more 'consistant'.. but prone to vibration... as I discovered.

On the dash of the car, its fantastic! So I suspect that 'mounting' is probably the key to success of any of these things...

I did try 'body-mounting' the Aldi-Cam, using a Sam-Brown belt and the slots the base... and even wrist mounting, but even less stable than on the bars..

Co-incidentally, I broke my lap-top screen, and so had its 'guts' lying around, and looking at the DVD drive sat on the fire-place gave me even more 'oy-dee-uz' calculating how quick a 32x CD reader spins, and how much gyroscopic effect one would have if you put a 1/4 thick bit of ali plate in the draw instead of a piece of perspex.... and doodling gimbals on the back of a fag packet!!!!

Like I said, it can be a slippery slope, though I think I might have been pretty near the bottom to begin with!
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 11 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrGs1 wrote:

I bought this it's good enough for insurance purposes and has a viewing screen so you don't have to fuck about with a laptop to watch back footage.

I made an offer of £40 which was accepted.

Also I don't look like a gimp with it cable tied around the chin bar/plonked on the top of my helmet.

https://i.imgur.com/my6BZi5.jpg

Cheers for that link Thumbs Up Bought one on Wednesday night and it arrived today. Quick question about it being water resistant, does that mean it's ok in the rain or do you need a case?
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 11 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't speak to the Drift Biggun, but the Drift Stealth seems to be fine in rain. The LCD fogs up when it's damp, but actually clears in proper rain. I've run a thin smear of grease around the rotatey CCD/lens as a precaution.
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