MT-03/25 explanation by Yamaha

[kawashima]

I found MT-03/25 explanation by Yamaha people but it was in Japanese so I translated it.

Aim of this model
Torque & Agility ( =Appeal points of MT series )
-Engine with emotional and brisk torque character.
-nimble and agile handling for various scenes.
⇒Roadster you can enjoy fully, and pull the lead in city traffic.

Model concept
The street cheatah
<Main target customer>
till 30s : Entry customer (1st or 2nd motorcycle)
around 40 : Return rider
<Sales point>
*Fun city riding
-Easy overtaking at high speed (Class No.1)
-Mid to High rev feeling Class No.1
-Handling easy to trace the line/left and right
-Easy riding position
-Easy tandem
*Design you can feel agility and presence.
-Slim but powerful face
*Easy for commuting.
-upright riding position.
-easy to push and walk.
*Easy to handle no matter experience or height.
-seat height

Design keyword
Extreme agility
Sexy muscle
Perfect control
*Mass concentration
-Mass forward silhouette + short overhang
*X-movement
-you can imagine left and right nimble movement.
*characteristic face(unique character)
-meter visor

Development project leader
common part with R25/R3
*Class No.1 performance
-Max power & pick up from mid range
*Agile handling
-Light weight & Handling easy to trace the line
(165kg(net)) (Same components with R25/3)
Tyre: MT-03:Michelin pilot street(H range)
MT-25:IRC RX-01(S range)

MT-03/25 characteristic part
*Easy/Comfort at city
-upright riding position
39mm risen and 19mm pulled handle bar
easy riding position
natural handling feeling
-Cowl less
⇒Agile handling
*Component for agility
-LED position lamps which looks like eyeline.
This is very compact. Cheatah with small head.
-Plastic cover + inner tank
-Aluminium assist grips
-Under cowl (Compact)

Accessories
*Tank pad : 8500yen +tax
*Protection graphic : 9500yen +tax
*single seat cowl : 15000yen +tax
*rear carrier : 18000yen +tax
*sport screen : 12000yen +tax
(height +60mm / width +50mm)

<video speaking in Japanese>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PmAdVglS4w#t=11m16s

https://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/mc/sportsbike/mt-25/
MT-03: 556,200yen(/182=£3056) 42PS/10750rpm /165kg
MT-25: 523,800yen(/182=£2878) 36PS/12000rpm /165kg

I think these are super bargain prices compared to
VTR250: 598,320yen(/182=£3287) 30PS/10500rpm /160kg
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[stevo as b4]

Those little VTR250's were beautiful things though, with old school Honda Build quality. 30bhp V-twin 250 is enough to have some fun with and they had a lot more style (Little Monster) than the MT/R25/30.

I don't really see how Yamaha has massively improved on the Ninja 300 with the R3 either? The build quality and the componentry selected looks far worse/cheaper and just from a looks perspective it's a real let down/backward step over even the Ninja 300.

What Yamaha had is a very nice small chassis in the YZF125R, and the mk2 version with the better suspension, bigger USD forks and 4pot caliper is a good motorcycle for a sporty 15bhp learner bike.

While it's not quite as specced chassis wise or has the sporty riding position as the Aprilia RS125 did, all Yamaha would have needed to do was fit that 31bhp WR250X engine into one, change the gearing, and tweak the suspension. A 30bhp 250cc single in a bike that's going to be much lighter is a winner IMO, over a half serious half commuter attempt at a 300cc twin with a very average chassis and level of spec and components, and horridly cheap looking build quality.

How much would a YZF250R have cost? If it was as nice a bike as the 125 but with the WR's engine, you could have priced that closer to £5k and still had lots of KTM stealing sales IMO.

[arry]

If an MT would be kind enough to turn up within, ooo I dunno, 150 miles of my general location I'd have bought one by now. I really do want one, for some unexplained reason.

[arry]

In fact it just prompted me to look

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-YAMAHA-MT03-660cc-Single-47HP-/181881646477?hash=item2a58fdad8d

Thought hell yeah - not far away, and wants a 125 in PX which I have for sale. RESULT


And then spotted stolen recovered

For.......F.....

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[arry]

Nope, if I had and enjoyed it - I'd have taken a total punt on one delivered from outer hebrides or something from a dealer but there's just none around here for some reason. Very nearest one is ~100 miles away at a dealer at £1500 more than I want to spend so a waste of everyone's time.

Do you imply have I ridden one by chance? Have you and liked or disliked?

What I'm after is a light, cheap, chuckable thing with a bit of character and ease of use to it. Fit bill?

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[deadwolf]

I was kinda looking forward to the MT-250/03, especially seeing how the MT-125 turned out. Was kinda disappointed though. Were the 250/03 and 125 designed by different teams? The 125 looked classy as heck with its perimeter frame, nice blockiness and resemblance to the MT-07 and MT-09.

The 250/03 on the other hand.. cheap-looking tube frame and the design looks like a Chinese commuter bike with chunks of plastic bitten out. It's so pedestrian. Blaargh.
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[UnknownStuntm...]

Reminds me of a Bandit. Thought we'd grown out of that by now.

[Rogerborg]

[arry]

[Rogerborg]

[arry]

Value not so much an issue - ability to sell is. Hence millstone.

If it were significantly cheaper then I'd take a punt and whatever but to have a bike on board I don't need very long with a marker against it just means a ball ache to sell.

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[Rogerborg]

[arry]

[SQL]

[arry]

[SQL]

I got mine for half that

[arry]

You did well there then!!

[SQL]

I got a bloody good deal. love the bike its fantastic

[Rogerborg]

[arry]

Still looking

And this
https://www.gumtree.com/p/yamaha-motorbikes/mt03-sell-or-partex-for-ped/1144729553

Advert so strong should sell quick yeah

[Rogerborg]

Tell him to throw in his Burberry cap and two Staffy puppies and it's a deal.
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[SQL]

buy mine!