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PostPosted: 17:34 - 07 Dec 2015    Post subject: November 2015 new registrations statistics Reply with quote

https://www.mcia.co.uk/Uploads/Statistics/Press-Statistics-November-2015-201511.pdf

Peds continue to droop, but motorcycle sales are 20% more rampant than last November. Dance!

The usual suspects are back on top: R1200GS, Sportster 883, MT-07, YZF R125. The MT 125 is actually the best selling naked, outselling the CB125F. Honda still has the edge on volume but Yamaha must be doing well from their premium 125s.

The usual also-rans make a showing, with Lexmoto doing their usual good business punting winter hacks out the door.

Pretty good month all round, lets get those low mileage used MT-07s out there. "Pimp Purple" with ABS please. Drooling
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 07 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bastid, draw your own fuckin' graphs then...

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It's a pitiful amount of salesregistrations really, but February is worse, so it's not hit rock bottom yet. Which is a plus.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 08 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing the MT09 Tracers initial marketing has wore off now that the GS has overtook it already with a now-2-year-old design. Not terribly surprised to see that tbh.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 08 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ducati not on the top 10? Must be waiting to buy them in the new year sales!
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 08 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albigularis wrote:
I'm guessing the MT09 Tracers initial marketing has wore off now that the GS has overtook it already with a now-2-year-old design. Not terribly surprised to see that tbh.

I'm convinced (in my head) that BMW have created a hard core of GS PCP never-neverers who just chop in their bike for a new one every couple of years. Steady away, the coffee's always good when it's in for its latest recall or warranty repair.

Honda's Africa Twin is getting good reviews, but so have many other GS-alternatives. None of them have come anywhere close to unseating the GS for more than a month or two - bear in mind that the monthly figures list the regular and "Adventure" GS separately, so the real numbers are higher.

Yamaha / Suzuki / Honda / everyone else's problem is finding people who aren't already on the GS-go-round, or who are prepared to step off it.

I do wonder if we'll see non-Nazi dealers given incentives or blackmailed into offering sweetheart deals on trade-in GSes.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If BM are selling them on PCP contracts they are laughing.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The long way 'round effect definitely attracted lots of people to biking, but you'd think they'd have gotten itchy for something a little different by now. IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.

IMO for the most part those with the cash to splash on a new bike, don't want to be faffing with a chain, and they're buying new so reliability issues don't matter so long as the warranty exists.

Alternative shafty "adventure" bikes?

Maybe the Guzzi Stelvio, but not many manufacturers can beat BMW in the ugly stakes:

https://allroadendurotouring.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AllroadTouringEnduroMotoGuzziSTELVIO12004VNTX2013.jpg

If you were really desperate to avoid a chain you might also consider a Buell Ulysses, but you'd also have to be mad, stupid, or both.

So nope, there is no suitable alternative for somebody after a low maintenance "go anywhere" bike, particularly from the showroom. GS shall continue to reign supreme until a worthy alternative raises it's better looking, shaft driven, head.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.

Begs the question: why don't the competition fit Scottoilers or their own equivalent at the factory?

This is one of those thing that you start typing whimsically, then half way through think "No, really, why don't they?"
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has probably been covered elsewhere or may be obvious to those who read the bike publications but what is happening with Suzuki?
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
c_dug wrote:
IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.

Begs the question: why don't the competition fit Scottoilers or their own equivalent at the factory?

This is one of those thing that you start typing whimsically, then half way through think "No, really, why don't they?"


I wonder whether there is an environmental or other regulatory reason why a deliberate, continuous loss of liquid hydrocarbon into the environment is considered bad form or is otherwise forbidden.

BMW also have another factor that may aid in their attraction and retention of propeller-eyed drones... they have a premium car business too (and it is also growing). Nobody else has one of those.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

weasley wrote:
I wonder whether there is an environmental or other regulatory reason why a deliberate, continuous loss of liquid hydrocarbon into the environment is considered bad form or is otherwise forbidden.

Ah, fair point.

Even if it's not prohibited now, I'm sure it would be after BMW get an ex-employee appointed as a Euro-rapporteur and invite their tame MEPs on "fact finding" jollies.

Again.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

is there somewhere statistic for whole europe not only for england?
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
The long way 'round effect definitely attracted lots of people to biking, but you'd think they'd have gotten itchy for something a little different by now. IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.

IMO for the most part those with the cash to splash on a new bike, don't want to be faffing with a chain, and they're buying new so reliability issues don't matter so long as the warranty exists.

Alternative shafty "adventure" bikes?

Maybe the Guzzi Stelvio, but not many manufacturers can beat BMW in the ugly stakes:

https://allroadendurotouring.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AllroadTouringEnduroMotoGuzziSTELVIO12004VNTX2013.jpg

If you were really desperate to avoid a chain you might also consider a Buell Ulysses, but you'd also have to be mad, stupid, or both.

So nope, there is no suitable alternative for somebody after a low maintenance "go anywhere" bike, particularly from the showroom. GS shall continue to reign supreme until a worthy alternative raises it's better looking, shaft driven, head.


What about the Triumph Tiger Explorer - Wonderful bike with shaft drive and SS swing arm. Triple engine Wub I loved mine and would still have it if the tax man hadn't wanted a £10000 donation Rolling Eyes

https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f261/WhiteFurryBear/20130826_104409.jpg

https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f261/WhiteFurryBear/20130826_104346.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 09 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no idea Triumph made a shafty!

That's me out then Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I had no idea Triumph made a shafty!

That's me out then Laughing


My Trophy is shaft drive as well. Basically the same engine and drive train but slightly different gearing.
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
The long way 'round effect definitely attracted lots of people to biking, but you'd think they'd have gotten itchy for something a little different by now. IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.

IMO for the most part those with the cash to splash on a new bike, don't want to be faffing with a chain, and they're buying new so reliability issues don't matter so long as the warranty exists.


I really don't think that's it. It's not a feature that necessarily sells bikes. I think it's just being part of that "adventure" vibe and doing so on what feels like a premium machine. When you look at the adventure bike market, there's little out there that offers anything different. You have the GS, the GS wannabes (Tiger/Explorer, Stelvio et al), the offroaders (Africa Twin/1290) then the realistic usage [read: never offroad] bike, the Multistrada 1200. The shaft drive even ended up giving them issues for about 5 years on the R1200GS... Shaft drive doesn't seem to sell bikes as a feature, even though it should IMO.

I think the different incarnations of the GS have been enough to satisfy developing tastes. It was getting a bit stale around '11 but the new liquid cooled model looks edgy and modern enough, plus you have the adventure being used by that Baron vlogger guy. I actually really like the look of the new base model GS, plus they've added a few new design options with the Triple Black and such...
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some odd choices for bikes in certain categories.
The Harley 883 looks like a naked bike and in the supersport section it's a 125cc.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The categories are as reported by manufacturer. It does get a bit lulzy.
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