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 Posted: 17:34 - 07 Dec 2015 Post subject: November 2015 new registrations statistics |
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https://www.mcia.co.uk/Uploads/Statistics/Press-Statistics-November-2015-201511.pdf
Peds continue to droop, but motorcycle sales are 20% more rampant than last November.
The usual suspects are back on top: R1200GS, Sportster 883, MT-07, YZF R125. The MT 125 is actually the best selling naked, outselling the CB125F. Honda still has the edge on volume but Yamaha must be doing well from their premium 125s.
The usual also-rans make a showing, with Lexmoto doing their usual good business punting winter hacks out the door.
Pretty good month all round, lets get those low mileage used MT-07s out there. "Pimp Purple" with ABS please.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Bastid, draw your own fuckin' graphs then...
It's a pitiful amount of salesregistrations really, but February is worse, so it's not hit rock bottom yet. Which is a plus. ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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| Albigularis wrote: | I'm guessing the MT09 Tracers initial marketing has wore off now that the GS has overtook it already with a now-2-year-old design. Not terribly surprised to see that tbh. |
I'm convinced (in my head) that BMW have created a hard core of GS PCP never-neverers who just chop in their bike for a new one every couple of years. Steady away, the coffee's always good when it's in for its latest recall or warranty repair.
Honda's Africa Twin is getting good reviews, but so have many other GS-alternatives. None of them have come anywhere close to unseating the GS for more than a month or two - bear in mind that the monthly figures list the regular and "Adventure" GS separately, so the real numbers are higher.
Yamaha / Suzuki / Honda / everyone else's problem is finding people who aren't already on the GS-go-round, or who are prepared to step off it.
I do wonder if we'll see non-Nazi dealers given incentives or blackmailed into offering sweetheart deals on trade-in GSes. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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The long way 'round effect definitely attracted lots of people to biking, but you'd think they'd have gotten itchy for something a little different by now. IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.
IMO for the most part those with the cash to splash on a new bike, don't want to be faffing with a chain, and they're buying new so reliability issues don't matter so long as the warranty exists.
Alternative shafty "adventure" bikes?
Maybe the Guzzi Stelvio, but not many manufacturers can beat BMW in the ugly stakes:
https://allroadendurotouring.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AllroadTouringEnduroMotoGuzziSTELVIO12004VNTX2013.jpg
If you were really desperate to avoid a chain you might also consider a Buell Ulysses, but you'd also have to be mad, stupid, or both.
So nope, there is no suitable alternative for somebody after a low maintenance "go anywhere" bike, particularly from the showroom. GS shall continue to reign supreme until a worthy alternative raises it's better looking, shaft driven, head. ____________________ I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock. |
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| c_dug wrote: | The long way 'round effect definitely attracted lots of people to biking, but you'd think they'd have gotten itchy for something a little different by now. IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.
IMO for the most part those with the cash to splash on a new bike, don't want to be faffing with a chain, and they're buying new so reliability issues don't matter so long as the warranty exists.
Alternative shafty "adventure" bikes?
Maybe the Guzzi Stelvio, but not many manufacturers can beat BMW in the ugly stakes:
https://allroadendurotouring.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/AllroadTouringEnduroMotoGuzziSTELVIO12004VNTX2013.jpg
If you were really desperate to avoid a chain you might also consider a Buell Ulysses, but you'd also have to be mad, stupid, or both.
So nope, there is no suitable alternative for somebody after a low maintenance "go anywhere" bike, particularly from the showroom. GS shall continue to reign supreme until a worthy alternative raises it's better looking, shaft driven, head. |
What about the Triumph Tiger Explorer - Wonderful bike with shaft drive and SS swing arm. Triple engine I loved mine and would still have it if the tax man hadn't wanted a £10000 donation
https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f261/WhiteFurryBear/20130826_104409.jpg
https://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f261/WhiteFurryBear/20130826_104346.jpg ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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I had no idea Triumph made a shafty!
That's me out then  ____________________ I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock. |
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| c_dug wrote: | The long way 'round effect definitely attracted lots of people to biking, but you'd think they'd have gotten itchy for something a little different by now. IMO Ze Shaft is why the GS sells so well still compared to others.
IMO for the most part those with the cash to splash on a new bike, don't want to be faffing with a chain, and they're buying new so reliability issues don't matter so long as the warranty exists. |
I really don't think that's it. It's not a feature that necessarily sells bikes. I think it's just being part of that "adventure" vibe and doing so on what feels like a premium machine. When you look at the adventure bike market, there's little out there that offers anything different. You have the GS, the GS wannabes (Tiger/Explorer, Stelvio et al), the offroaders (Africa Twin/1290) then the realistic usage [read: never offroad] bike, the Multistrada 1200. The shaft drive even ended up giving them issues for about 5 years on the R1200GS... Shaft drive doesn't seem to sell bikes as a feature, even though it should IMO.
I think the different incarnations of the GS have been enough to satisfy developing tastes. It was getting a bit stale around '11 but the new liquid cooled model looks edgy and modern enough, plus you have the adventure being used by that Baron vlogger guy. I actually really like the look of the new base model GS, plus they've added a few new design options with the Triple Black and such... ____________________ Biking history so far-
Aprilia RS125 - Kawasaki ZXR400 - Triumph Street Triple R - Suzuki GSXR1000 L3 - BMW R1200GS - Kawasaki Z1000 - Kawasaki ZX10R C1H - Ducati Multistrada 1200 S Touring - Suzuki Hayabusa |
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The categories are as reported by manufacturer. It does get a bit lulzy. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 62 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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