Low paid perm job vs higher paid agency.

[MC900]

I'm in a situation where I can choose between a permanent job on minimum wage or a agency job that pays 8.50 an hour. I'm unsure what to do because it would be nice to be paid better for working but it might not last long and then I'd have to find a new job. Anyone got any advice? Cheers.
____________________
Current Ride: Fazer 600 (02) & YBR125 (07)

[J4mes]

Does agency pay sick, annual leave? What about over time, bank holidays etc?

[c_dug]

What line of work?

If you can build a good reputation with an agency you'll potentially be offered a better rate of pay a few months down the line.

I'm on the opposite end, I have agency staff that I call in to support our team when we need it. Particular technicians have worked their socks off for us, and so we ask for them by name.

The agency appreciates the fact that said technicians have earned the agency our repeat custom, and so they treat said technicians well to keep them on board.
____________________
I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock.

[winz]

It's a matter of weighing up the positives and negatives.

Agency, more money, less stability and no pension/sick pay/holiday etc.

Perm, less money, more stability and pension/sick pay/holiday.

Does depend on the industry mind. What do you do?

I went self employed and have 2 agency contacts. Money is a lot better than working for someone else and I get more time to pursue my own interests. However it's down to me to top up the funds with other work to buy a new bike/go on holiday. Sick days suck. Although I just power through and rest on the weekends. Holidays can be tricky, but if you have someone that can cover then it's all good. Just no pay!
____________________
Current Bikes: BMW K1200S
Previous: Honda CBR929RR, Honda CBR1100XX, Honda CB600F

[FlightRisk]

If you get the permanent job you have a bit of security and you can still keep looking out for a better job.
Or, do such a good job that they give you a raise or a promotion after a bit.

Is 'neither' an option?

My advice is get paid more. Seriously. Study, bullshit about your amazing skills, do a job you never thought you could do, whatever you have to do. You can spell, use a computer and string a sentence together. That's more than I can say for most recruitment agents I've crossed paths with, just for example.

If you found out what the agency was charging the company for you to get that £8.50 you'd be sickened.
____________________
Honda CB500S

[J0Al1]

How old are you?

https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates

I'd be inclined to take whichever job wouild give you a better record on your CV for the route you want to take.

It could work either way:
Perm job may look good for commitment.
Temp jobs might increase your overall experiance and confidence.

[Alpineandy]

I'd guess you're a young man (rides a 125) and you're some years from thinking seriously about a mortgage. If your type of work is easily transferable then take the money. IMO!
____________________
The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.

[hellkat]

I'd go with the agency, because (in my previous vast experience) if you are any good, when one job comes to an end, the agencies will soon find another place to put you, and the chances of temping into a better paying perm job is more likely, cos the people you work with as a temp get to know you, and to know that you can do the job.

Almost all of the jobs in my (30+ years) of working in London, the best jobs I had were usually ones that I temped for them first, and got offered a job on the back of my performance.

Never settle for less and especially not if its a minimum wage job. They are harder to get out of than it is to get out of a temp job and into another temp job. And it looks more shit on your CV if you are in and out of permanent jobs.
____________________
Not nearly as interesting in real life.

[hellkat]

[winz]

[MC900]

Cheers for the replies. I am 29 soon and the jobs I'm after are warehouse jobs. There are loads of temp ones where I am but this perm one has come up and I'm struggling to decide. Thanks for the help
____________________
Current Ride: Fazer 600 (02) & YBR125 (07)

[winz]

What qualifications do you have MC900?

Does any of these places have a system for internal employing so you can work up the ladder?
____________________
Current Bikes: BMW K1200S
Previous: Honda CBR929RR, Honda CBR1100XX, Honda CB600F

[MC900]

[iooi]

[hellkat]

I have no qualifications either.

I left 6th form (in 1977) with four out of 5 exam passes at "O" level
And 2 out of 4 at "A level" (albeit all with high grades).

But no degree, no tertiary qualifications at all.
____________________
Not nearly as interesting in real life.

[c_dug]

I left school with very little too, I'm younger than you by a couple of years but in my opinion I've done pretty damn well from where I started.

I'd get out of the warehouse work personally, it's grim and doesn't really lead anywhere in terms of progression.

I never thought I'd say this, but I recommend retail. If you have half a brain you'll move through the ranks of a small shop in a couple of years working for any small to mid sized company, without the need for qualifications and what not. The experience I gained in retail helped me so much in getting the role I'm in now.

A retail manager might not be the most glamorous job in the world, but they tend to get somewhere in the region of £28-35,000 a year for most companies I've bothered looking at, hardly raking it in, but a good chunk more than £8.50 per hour for sure!
____________________
I am a bellend, I am a man of constant sorrow, I am a gummy bear, I am a rock.

[Nobby the Bastard]

£8.50 isn't particularly highly paid.
____________________
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[MC900]

[monkeybiker]

I'd say go for the agency job. Why pick the minimum wage job for security? If I got a job on minimum wage I wouldn't want to do it for very long so what does it matter if it's permanent. Go for the agency as it's more money and keep looking for other jobs.

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Twenty years ago when I was stuck in a series of dead-end agency jobs around the country I didn't get paid holiday or sick leave but I think that's all changed. However, temporary staff are still the first out when the economy bites. The fact that the company are prepared to pay the temp more than permanent wages AND pay the agency's matching commission suggests that there must be significant benefits to being permanent. Company pension scheme and an annual bonus perhaps? Or just no need to pay redundancy? Find out. Can you still get training as a temp which would boost your CV? Fork lift truck qualifications, for example?

[monkeybiker]

[iooi]

[owl10]

I find myself in a similar position to the Op,

Not badly paid currently,, but could double money by going for short term contracting.

With a mortgage and baby stability looks the most sensible choice, but can't stop thinking about the money....
____________________
DanceLikeAMonkey says: "An infinte amount of web pages available
Yet I still end up reading crap like that"

[Ben90]

I've been self employed for years. What helps me is to have a few weeks worth of 'wage' in your bank as a float at all times, that way you've got your own little buffer of sick pay or holiday pay or if there are any quiet spots in your work.

It's takes some getting used to mind, having it there and not spending it - especially when you're ill or away.
____________________
Yamaha FZ6 S2

[Taught2BCauti...]

£8.50 is not that far off minimum wage anyway, so can you squeeze any other benefit from the permanent position? Such as an FLT licence or an H&S or material handling course? These aren't usually available to you as an agency worker.

This will put you in a better place to look for higher paid work, whilst you still have money coming in.

A company would probably be paying the agency £12 an hour or more before you get your cut, so it's not likely to last for long - but a successful contract is likely to lead to more agency work.

If you decide to go for the agency, consider getting paid through an 'Umbrella' company (your agency will probably suggest one that they already work with) that will give you a tax-efficient solution - like being able to claim for meals and travel costs.

Some Umbrellas, like Parasol, can give you holiday pay, and up to £500 per week if you are injured at work or whilst commuting.
____________________
Honda Varadero XL125(V8)
www.TheFutureIsHere.eu