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sickpup
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 07 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

And seriously Chris if you don't want to spend proper money on a tool box there are lots of cheap ones out there such as these...

7 Drawer roller cab £104.90

5 Drawer roller cab with 9 drawer top £148.99

Fake Sealey 7 Drawer roller cab, 3 drawer step up and 9 drawer top cab £269.95

Just don't expect them to be rigid and hold the weight of a bike.
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chris-red
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 07 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
And seriously Chris if you don't want to spend proper money on a tool box there are lots of cheap ones out there such as these...

7 Drawer roller cab £104.90

5 Drawer roller cab with 9 drawer top £148.99

Fake Sealey 7 Drawer roller cab, 3 drawer step up and 9 drawer top cab £269.95

Just don't expect them to be rigid and hold the weight of a bike.


I don't need it to be Laughing I'll check those out £150 is far more palatable.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 07 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Chris

If you don't want to buy a half decent let alone a decent tool chest/cabinet then don't but stop trying to justify why you shouldn't do it.

I've never said I shouldn't had a tool cabinet, what I have said over and over is I think they are overpriced, especially for my needs.

sickpup wrote:

Simple FACT is if you get one and there is loads of space in it you will fill it by putting things such as extra oil filters, bulbs etc in it as it keeps everything to hand. You will also find you put drill bits in it, your drill, you airline bits because it is pointless having a garage that has no power and if it has power you will get a compressor and you will get air tools. You will also place your household bits like screws and rawl plugs in it, spare fuses, tap washers etc and in no time at all you will find that you need a bigger tool box.


I will not be keeping non tools, in it for me the point of a rolling tool chest is to keep your tools in one place and you can move them to where you are working. I will have racking and other organiser for parts/fastners/whatever. I have air tools and I use dads compressor, I have an impact wrench, cut off tool and a shot blaster. The only things I have actually used however is the tyre pump and blow line. So I'm not bothered about keeping them close.

sickpup wrote:

And seriously do you think you will only ever need one fork seal driver, you going to keep the same bike forever?


It does 35-45mm, it's worked for everything so far.

sickpup wrote:

If you really want to go into it where are you planning on keeping your lathe bits? I would suggest a tool cabinet is the perfect place and they aren't exactly lightweight bits.


In boxes/trays/organisers next to the Lathe, were else Confused why would I want them taking up space in a rolling tool chest when the can be next to the only spot where I will use them.

sickpup wrote:

And are you planning on restricting yourself to a minimal toolkit for the rest of your life? I thought the point of having this garage was you could actually do things in it and save money.


Our definitions of minimal differ, I'll have sockets up to 36, allen/torx/star bits/keys up to 12 (and a front wheel thing) spanners up to 24 + a shifter. A decent set of drivers, pliers etc. There are also many little bits and bobs such as feeler gauges, bearing pullers, fork damper holders etc. That I have, I can't think what I would be limited by when doing bog standard maintenance on a Modern bike.

sickpup wrote:

Bottom line is your money your choice but please stop trying to justify why a DIYer shouldn't have a tool cabinet, they are cheap enough when you consider they last decades and protect your investment.


As I said I'm not, I just said a £400 tool chest that can hold a metric tonne, is overkill for someone whose probable spend on tools will be about that.

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P.S Not my fault you ride an obese buffalo. Thumbs Up


TDM is actually Pretty light, 220kg is wet weight and it is lighter than any of it peers.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 07 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris I'm looking at your reply and the first thing I think is that you need shooting. sorry big guy you know I think you are an alright chap but it really is time for the barrel under the chin.

Oh and your bike is obese, just because its in a class of obese bikes doesn't stop it being obese.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 08 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this Chris. It might be shit but it's pretty shit. Laughing

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PostPosted: 11:25 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:49 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway abuse because I don't want to spend £400 on a bomb proof trolley aside, what are people's opinion of Kamasa?

I've heard of them but I don't know what sort of quality they are.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought earlier in the year a WERA KRAFTFORM SCREWDRIVER SET and it is probable the best screwdrivers i have ever owned (bloody i have got through some screwdrivers in my time). As these are your most used tool it pays to get a decent set.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 10 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Anyway abuse because I don't want to spend £400 on a bomb proof trolley aside, what are people's opinion of Kamasa?

I've heard of them but I don't know what sort of quality they are.


Old man has a Kamasa 1/2" socket set older than I am and it's been great although it's stamped up USA, other Kamasa stuff I've seen and used has been shit and stamped up Taiwan And China.

I'd probably avoid to be honest.
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PostPosted: 05:19 - 12 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Anyway abuse because I don't want to spend £400 on a bomb proof trolley aside


No, abuse because I have very little tolerance for people talking rubbish.

To spend the money building a garage and then to want to put expensive tools on shelves whether they be hand tools, lathe tools or whatever is exasperating.

To not understand that your tool collection will grow significantly over the next few decades is exasperating.

To not realise that you will need impact sockets (so thats a 3rd set)to go with your air ratchet, normal sockets can have the unexpected comedy problem of shattering when used on air tools is exasperating.

To not realise that you will need two sets of spanners, one to hold a bolt and one the nut is exasperating.

You have a chance with a blank slate to build a decent workshop but you seem to have decided not to, you could buy two bottom cabs for example and have the worktop and vice above it but instead you have decided against it due to price which in the long term is minimal. You have also placed limits artificially on what you plan to do longterm. That is exasperating.

As to what you can't do bog standard maintenance wise on a Modern bike changing an electrical connector jumps to mind or checking tdc or anything electrical etc would you like me to continue? and yet you have the space and intelligence to do all these things.

Did I mention I have no tolerance?
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 15 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
chris-red wrote:
Anyway abuse because I don't want to spend £400 on a bomb proof trolley aside


No, abuse because I have very little tolerance for people talking rubbish.

To spend the money building a garage and then to want to put expensive tools on shelves whether they be hand tools, lathe tools or whatever is exasperating.

To not understand that your tool collection will grow significantly over the next few decades is exasperating.

To not realise that you will need impact sockets (so thats a 3rd set)to go with your air ratchet, normal sockets can have the unexpected comedy problem of shattering when used on air tools is exasperating.

To not realise that you will need two sets of spanners, one to hold a bolt and one the nut is exasperating.

You have a chance with a blank slate to build a decent workshop but you seem to have decided not to, you could buy two bottom cabs for example and have the worktop and vice above it but instead you have decided against it due to price which in the long term is minimal. You have also placed limits artificially on what you plan to do longterm. That is exasperating.

As to what you can't do bog standard maintenance wise on a Modern bike changing an electrical connector jumps to mind or checking tdc or anything electrical etc would you like me to continue? and yet you have the space and intelligence to do all these things.

Did I mention I have no tolerance?


I already have a crimp set and a ratchet crimper, a multi meter and dial gauge too, I used etc. because I'm not going to list every single tool I have.

You've made you position clear, I'm still not spending £400 on a tool chest. Care to move on, or would you like to repeat yourself again?
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 15 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I'm still not spending £400 on a tool chest.


You don't need to either. Same as with the tools you can upgrade and replace as you go along (or not).

I would start with something like this for £41 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Tool-Chest-3-Drawer-Portable-With-Ball-Bearing-Runners-Red-Grey-AP9243BB-/301570447788?hash=item4636ffd9ac:g:KUcAAOSwBLlVDeao It's amazing how many tools you can fit in something that size and if you aren't wheeling it around, just sitting on a bench it will be fine.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 15 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
chris-red wrote:
I'm still not spending £400 on a tool chest.


You don't need to either. Same as with the tools you can upgrade and replace as you go along (or not).

I would start with something like this for £41 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Tool-Chest-3-Drawer-Portable-With-Ball-Bearing-Runners-Red-Grey-AP9243BB-/301570447788?hash=item4636ffd9ac:g:KUcAAOSwBLlVDeao It's amazing how many tools you can fit in something that size and if you aren't wheeling it around, just sitting on a bench it will be fine.


I know that, I've found cheaper ones and have been looking at them, that one looks cheap and cheerful, I'm not sure if it would be too small, I'm going to measure dads one, and see what size that is.
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Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 15 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look for 'Bott' drawers on the bay, there's another company that makes similar too but the name escapes me at the minute. I've got one of my drawers loaded with ~20kg of drill bits and it glides in and out effortlessly. You don't get fleeced for them either because everyone else is looking for top boxes and roll cabs Thumbs Up

Edit: I REALLY wouldn't go for cheap top box/roll cabs though, I'm not for overly extravagant purchases unless they're necessary but cheap drawers are wank in the long term, my Clarke box full of end Mills and stuff has started to collapse and bind the drawers...
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