Bikes with 1-piece handlebar safer than clipons - apparently

[Doovy]

For info:

[RhynoCZ]

I do agree, although it seems a bit too strict rule.
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[stinkwheel]

It's because they don't like the fact that people have realised they can enter and win on an out of the box sports bike.
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[Rogerborg]

Skip to the source.

https://www.ppihc.com/updates/2015/12/21/the-ppihc-provides-clarification-on-the-decision-to-revert-to-a-handlebar-rule-last-used-in-2012/

tl;dr version: because riding position, visibility, leverage.

https://www.ppihc.com/wp-content/uploads/One-vs-two-650x212.jpg

That's their picture. Here's an S1000RR vs an S1000R.

https://i.imgur.com/0rNQ98F.jpg?1

If you reckon it's bullshit, the real reason is that their insurers believe it.
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[Wonko The Sane]

So my ZZR with it's 3 piece bars (yolk with bars that bolt to it, one each side) wouldn't be allowed?

How many sports bikes in recent years have been built with flat bars?


I can understand it's not a race track in the same way Brands Hatch is, especially in the following regard

[Monkeywrenche...]

"all bikes not fitted with original-equipment one-piece handlebars as standard."

So it's a ban on focused sports bikes, trying to keep factory teams from ruining the fun perhaps?

[Doovy]

[stinkwheel]

It's how the septics roll.

I remember a story about how they hold an annual v-twin top-speed event at Daytona.

A guy turned up on a standard guzzi and wiped the floor.

Next year it was stipulated they had to be inline.

They then ruled out rice burners by stipulating air cooled.

Then they brought in a 45 degree rule to keep the old ducatis out.

It's still the "fastest v-twin" not "fastest harley".

So pikes peak, they don't want sports bikes entering but they won't say so, they'll just make rules to make it impossible. If someone does a homologation special with ace-bars, they'll start with bodywork restrictions but wont specifically ban sports bikes.
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[stevo as b4]

It reminds me of two other race series in the US.

The first was when King Kenny won on the TZ750 flat tracker (awesome looking bike) and Four cylinder bikes were banned.

The second is when the Nissan Skyline R32 went racing in America and beat all the domestic market brands and teams.

The next season all race cars had to have a pushrod V8 engine to be eligible to race.

[Old Git Racing]

It's the nut that holds them that determines if they are safer.

OGR.
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[Rogerborg]

I know we all like a piece of Septic bashing, but it's remotely plausible that they're telling the straight truth.

2 bikers have offed themselves, both on clip-on bikes, and their insurers have thrown a hissy fit. It's either ban clip-on bikes to mollify them, or not have any bikes at all.
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[Marmalade]

Pah. One piece bars are no better.
Mine snapped clean in two.

Only hit the Tarmac at a ton.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Everyone seems to have missed the obvious point here. In order to break your bars, you have to already dropped the bike.

In which case, how could be bars be the reason why the bike was dropped?
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[MarJay]

I think the rule was originally to restrict the run to non sports bikes, but when you've got something like a 170bhp Multistrada, does it really make a difference?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

See how safe this run up the mountain is with bars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTiTPAusog4
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[stinkwheel]

[Albigularis]

They wanted to ban sports bikes.

They could set this rule, or they could say "no sports bikes" and have everyone complain that a multistrada has a "sport" mode and shouldn't be allowed, or that a Tuono is derived from a sports bike and shouldn't be allowed. This was the easiest way to rule them out in one sweep.
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[Rogerborg]

[mysterious_rider]

What about tall/ short people?


Even with shorter bars id be taller than most.
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[talkToTheHat]

But how many manufacturers don't have a naked based on the sportsbike? Frame, top yokes and bars from the naked, everything else from the sportsbike?

Does this mean aftermarket bars are banned, so you can't fit higher and wider bars (e.g. renthals) to a bike that comes equipped with straight bars.

That must mean my super fast bandit of harley killing is now proper banned becasue it's got Renthal Low bars on it, which are taller than stock (not ultra lows)....
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