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PostPosted: 14:17 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Motorcycle News' shotgun test of a helmet ! Reply with quote

Here have a look at this link as you'll be amazed at the test result Laughing

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/nav?page=motorcyclenews.articles.articleCategory.article&resourceId=1855923&articleCategory=NEWS_PRODUCT-NEWS
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The visors on racing lids are meant to be strong enough to stop a small bullet going through them when fired at. At least the car ones are, not sure about bike ones.

That used to be the test they used to see if they could withstand a stone being flicked at them at around 200mph.

Not sure what calibre gun they used though, can't see it being more than a .22 calibre rifle. Something bigger would probably get a bit messy! Wink
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It maybe able to stop a bullet but how good is the shock absorbing material fitted inside in being able to help prevent concusion ?
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 10 yard the shot will be well disperced. Also depends what shot you use. Bet I could have blew the fooker to bitz Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the pictures i though they had the helmet on the end of the shotgun. That would have been interesting Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, not so long ago there was a thread in which people were daying not to buy a helmet online as it might get bumped when paced in bubblewrap, polystyrene and carboard during transport.
I bet that helmet would still sae your life even after being shot!
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont buy that lid!

A) Helmets are designed to break down on impact, which takes out some of the force.

B) its pretty obvious the shot has traveled through the helmet anyway, and if you shot a normal helmet at the same range, it wouldnt be a lot different because shot (ball bearings made of lead or steel) will still punch a clean hole, where as a .22, as said above, will mess it up becuase theres a lot more energy in the bullet.

Smile if anyone has an old lid, and a .12 gauge, try it.. it wont be much different.

By looks of the shot pattern id say the range was about 35-40 yards.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come off once at 45, once at 35 and 3 times on a minimoto racing track. I hope my lids ok Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueNinja wrote:
By looks of the shot pattern id say the range was about 35-40 yards.
You can watch the video and see the distance, looks a lot less than 35-40 yards.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 11 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think this is a relevant test of a lid...........we don't wear them to protect us in the event of being shot in the head by a shotgun at 40yds do we? Thumbs Down

The object of a helmet is to proctect your head from impact, and in the case of impact with a pointy object to prevent punturing by the pointy object allowing it to impact your head.

The outer shell is to prvent the puncturing and old it all together, the polystyrene and padding is to absorb the shock.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need that for my area Smile
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a completely irrelevant test for a motorcycle crash helmet, but it is a harmless bit of fun, and does demonstrate just how hard the outer shell actually is... Quite interesting really.
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

kasandrich wrote:
I don't think this is a relevant test of a lid...........we don't wear them to protect us in the event of being shot in the head by a shotgun at 40yds do we? Thumbs Down.


I take it you've never had to stop at a set of lights in Sunny Govan?
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PostPosted: 03:23 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Govan - down town Beirut ! Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea but that test can be flawed. How far was the shotgun when fired. you can shot people with a shotty if your 50 yards away you can survive it.
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PostPosted: 04:37 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting, but only in the same way that seeing what the results of shooting anything is interesting.

Like was said, it's a publicity stunt, irrelevant to crash helmet safety really. However, (TC will certainly know) as far as I am aware, visors are tested by having ball bearings fired at them anyway.

The performance of a helmet with realistically modelled head inside is what concerns me more. I've already had my life saved by a helmet once, I'd like to think I stand a decent chance the next time.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

0ni wrote:
I take it you've never had to stop at a set of lights in Sunny Govan?


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PostPosted: 10:13 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article says it was shot from 10 yards, but the choke on the shotgun seems to be quite loose thus the largish spread.

Either way still impressive if you think about it.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol this reminds me of I think it was NASA that developed a gun to shoot dead chickens and birds at airplane windows to check there strength Smile crazy world..
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueNinja wrote:
lol this reminds me of I think it was NASA that developed a gun to shoot dead chickens and birds at airplane windows to check there strength Smile crazy world..
Shame they forgot to defrost the birds. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueNinja wrote:
lol this reminds me of I think it was NASA that developed a gun to shoot dead chickens and birds at airplane windows to check there strength Smile crazy world..


They also use those to test jet engines for bird strike performance. It's little wonder that the Rolls-Royce Pegasus engine (as used in the Harrier) still has it's first two stages built from titanium, pretty much to act as a giant meat grinder. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 12 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me correct you.

a BRITTISH company built the chicken gun, to test commercial aircrafts windsheild strength. we sold it to the yanks at NASA, and they kept breaking the windows on their aircraft. we told them to defrost the chicken!

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