Help & FAQs    Search BCF    Members    Groups    Events Calendar
Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


CB125F V YBR125

 Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers Goto page 1, 2  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

brookscd
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 29 Dec 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 13:55 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
Hello all,

So I completed my CBT just before Christmas and am now looking to get myself on the road with a 125. Its really just for commuting to work.

I have looked at the YBR125 and the CB125F

I have ruled out the Lexmotos as they seem to have reliability issues and I am looking to keep the bike I buy rather than passing my test and getting a bigger one. (I guess you get what you pay for)

My question is what would be the best option of the two AND WHY (or good alternative), they have both received good reviews from what I have read.

I'd appreciate any advice, Thanks
Chris
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 14:57 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
brookscd wrote:
what would be the best option of the two AND WHY

YBR because it's a known quantity. The chrome is a bit fragile, so look after it. Consider fitting rubber fork gaiters.


MCN: "the little CB125F still retains the usual Honda build quality"

Based on the CBF125 that would be rust, dodgy fuel pumps and e-z-seize engines. Let someone else find out what new surprises await in the CB125F.

Thing is, if it's purely for utility commuting and you've really got no interest in getting onto anything bigger, then have you considered a scooter? A Vision 110 costs £2K and will get you there and back at nearly 150mpg.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Teflon-Mike
tl;dr



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 15:27 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
brookscd wrote:
I am looking to keep the bike I buy rather than passing my test and getting a bigger one.

That's not a 'plan' that's an excuse.
Its a FULL Bike licence, not a 'big bike licence'.
If you are good enough to ride on the road safely, you are good enough to pass the fucking tests and prove it. If not? Well, it's your arse kimosabi! Just stay well away from me when you put it on the line! L-Plates or for LEARNING to pass tests, NOT to avoid doing them!

As to the actual questions, there's bugger all between them for form, function and finance.. pick the one that you like the paint and price on better... and get a proper PLAN, to learn to ride it, 'cos form function and finance issues will go completely out the window after your first lesson in the school of hard-knocks that put dents in the tank, and the sums and your enthusiasm for t all!
____________________
My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

brookscd
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 29 Dec 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 15:45 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
brookscd wrote:
what would be the best option of the two AND WHY

YBR because it's a known quantity. The chrome is a bit fragile, so look after it. Consider fitting rubber fork gaiters.


MCN: "the little CB125F still retains the usual Honda build quality"

Based on the CBF125 that would be rust, dodgy fuel pumps and e-z-seize engines. Let someone else find out what new surprises await in the CB125F.

Thing is, if it's purely for utility commuting and you've really got no interest in getting onto anything bigger, then have you considered a scooter? A Vision 110 costs £2K and will get you there and back at nearly 150mpg.


Thank you RogerBorg, I appreciate it's maybe a little early to have a true 'real world' review of the Honda. The Vision is an idea will have a look into that too. Thanks
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

brookscd
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 29 Dec 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 15:52 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
Teflon-Mike wrote:
brookscd wrote:
I am looking to keep the bike I buy rather than passing my test and getting a bigger one.

That's not a 'plan' that's an excuse.
Its a FULL Bike licence, not a 'big bike licence'.
If you are good enough to ride on the road safely, you are good enough to pass the fucking tests and prove it. If not? Well, it's your arse kimosabi! Just stay well away from me when you put it on the line! L-Plates or for LEARNING to pass tests, NOT to avoid doing them!

As to the actual questions, there's bugger all between them for form, function and finance.. pick the one that you like the paint and price on better... and get a proper PLAN, to learn to ride it, 'cos form function and finance issues will go completely out the window after your first lesson in the school of hard-knocks that put dents in the tank, and the sums and your enthusiasm for t all!


WOW, thanks for your opinion on the bikes Mike.

Did I say I wasn't going to go ahead and do the test
or
Did I say I was going to do the test but keep the 125 I buy anyway....

Thanks for the advice anyway.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

pdg
World Chat Champion



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:41 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
What you said was:

brookscd wrote:
I am looking to keep the bike I buy rather than passing my test and getting a bigger one.


Which I read as "I'll be happy on a 125 so no need to take a test".

The "rather than passing my test" bit is what did it.
____________________
Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Teflon-Mike
tl;dr



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 19:45 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Re: CB125F V YBR125 Reply with quote
brookscd wrote:
keep the bike I buy rather than passing my test

' tis the 'rather' in there that is the operator, implying an 'either/or' choice, as opposed to saying "want to keep the bike I buy 'after' passing my test".. on which topic still no mention of an actual 'plan'.. hopeful you are working on one.

Small thought for you if you are; a brand new YBR is aprox £2,500... a good second hand one likely to actually last more than the validity of a CBT cert in an L-Plater's tender are, around £1500.

If over 19, you can do a full course of training for a 'restricted' 45bhp A2 licence, or if over 24, for an unrestricted, 'ride what you like' A category entitlement. Such a course should cost 'around' £750.... then, 'larger' commuter, something like an ER5 or a CB500, could be procured, for perhaps as little as £1000, for a bike that not only has much more 'comfortable' performance.. but built to a more 'robust' standard, and not pre-abused by a succession of know nothing 'Learners', likely to be in much tidier mechanical condition and retain it a lot longer. Costs a little more to tax each year, but probably no more, if in fact its not cheaper, to insure, as a 125 on L-Plates, and use no more fuel. Certainly so for the two 750's in this house-hold over thee two 125's.

Just an 'idea'... same sort of money, AND you get the tests you seem to be avoiding.... mention of... at the very least.
____________________
My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

talkToTheHat
World Chat Champion



Joined: 21 Feb 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 23:03 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm sure i said a 125 would be 'enough'. Wasn't long before i was treating the throttle as an on-off switch and cursing the lack of speed.

None of my bikes have been tear-your-face-off fast though and bith praise and abuse my current ride with the description "sensible".

Sensible includes being able to wind in the throttle at motorway speed in the confidence that there will be sufficent acceleration to perform the lane change.
____________________
Bandit. does. everything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Alpineandy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 23:26 - 29 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Buy the cheap one.
Do your full test and buy a slightly bigger one as they're much better....IMO.
____________________
The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

ADSrox0r
World Chat Champion



Joined: 23 Oct 2012
Karma :
PostPosted: 06:42 - 31 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
Meh, you'll get a big bike in the end. I can't think of many people who went and did their full test training on a 600 and came home on their 125 put-put thinking, "you know what, I think this is waaaay better than a big bike!"

I remember nearly launching mine in a ditch after I'd razzed about on a proper bike Laughing
____________________
Current bikes: '08 VFR 800 VTEC(yo) , '07 ZZR1400 Winter hack: '95 Aprilia 650 Pegaso Currently lusting after: RC30
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Snop Doog
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 28 Jul 2014
Karma :
PostPosted: 18:17 - 31 Dec 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've ridden a CB125F, it's quite nice to ride. It's very twitchy in comparison to my CBF125. It can switch directions very quickly but the CBF feels a lot more stable. I'd definitely say the CBF is a better bike than the CB125F based on my experience. Mine's almost 7 years old and it's more or less rust free. I did experience fuel pump issues in the summer though but that only lasted for a day (the hottest day of the year).

Although I haven't ridden a YBR I'd still choose the CB125F over it.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 22:21 - 02 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
SV650SKid wrote:
Although I haven't ridden a YBR I'd still choose the CB125F over it.

Why?
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Snop Doog
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 28 Jul 2014
Karma :
PostPosted: 05:11 - 03 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
SV650SKid wrote:
Although I haven't ridden a YBR I'd still choose the CB125F over it.

Why?
Looks and because the CB125F was INSANELY comfortable. It's like everything is in the right place. I could get away with wearing my leathers on a CB125F but it would look slightly out of place on a YBR. Mostly looks though.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

GreekPhil
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 10 Jan 2016
Karma :
PostPosted: 09:29 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I rode a CBF 125 and a YBR 125 and I definitely prefer the Yammy. I did my CBT on a CBF and I found the position almost too far back if that makes any sense? On the YBR it feel better on the corners feeling as if i have more grip in the front. I ended up buying a YBR which had a slightly different design as it had front fairings. No clue on the CB125F
____________________
There are two kinds of people in this world: Greeks, and everyone else who wish they were Greek.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

GreekPhil
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 10 Jan 2016
Karma :
PostPosted: 09:32 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
However I am jealous of the looks of the CB125F and the fact it is fuel Injection
____________________
There are two kinds of people in this world: Greeks, and everyone else who wish they were Greek.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Evil Hans
World Chat Champion



Joined: 08 Nov 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:05 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
GreekPhil wrote:
However I am jealous of the looks of the CB125F and the fact it is fuel Injection


Is the Yam not fuel injected?

Edit: Sorry, just saw the pic on your other thread - didn't realise it was the older model Embarassed !

Personally I prefer carbs to FI ... but then I'm very old fashioned.
____________________
Triumph Sprint ST 1050. And it's Red.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

stevo as b4
World Chat Champion



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:12 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
ADSrox0r wrote:
Meh, you'll get a big bike in the end. I can't think of many people who went and did their full test training on a 600 and came home on their 125 put-put thinking, "you know what, I think this is waaaay better than a big bike!"

I remember nearly launching mine in a ditch after I'd razzed about on a proper bike Laughing


Sure and I would 100% agree with you for a new or young rider that wants to work up the capacity/performance and weight ladder, or if you need the bike for a specific job that say only a tourer, off roader or adventure bike could do well.

There's people out there that had and did sportsbikes and got bored before trying modern litre models and just wouldn't have another current/modern bike or even anything that's not classic.

Also when you come from say a 200kg+ bike back to a 100-125kg bike you sometimes remember how fun they could be and why big bikes are sometimes boring and nothing like fun too.

Im on a 125cc put put and have had a licence for nearly 20years.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:13 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
UK spec YBRs have been fuel injected since 2008.

Yes, the CB125F looks sharper, but so does a Lexmoto Venom.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

GreekPhil
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 10 Jan 2016
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:28 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
My bike was registered in 2009 but for some reason is a carb model, also it has a different front fairing that i cant seem to find much info about
____________________
There are two kinds of people in this world: Greeks, and everyone else who wish they were Greek.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Evil Hans
World Chat Champion



Joined: 08 Nov 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:46 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
GreekPhil wrote:
My bike was registered in 2009 but for some reason is a carb model, also it has a different front fairing that i cant seem to find much info about


Odd. All the carb model YBRs I've seen have kick and electric start but from your pic it looks like yours is electric only - as per the fuel injected ones.

Grey import?
____________________
Triumph Sprint ST 1050. And it's Red.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

GreekPhil
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 10 Jan 2016
Karma :
PostPosted: 10:48 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it was imported straight from japan cause the Manual it came with was completely in Japanase, and no it doesnt have a kickstart
____________________
There are two kinds of people in this world: Greeks, and everyone else who wish they were Greek.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :
PostPosted: 11:00 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Japanese or Chinese? Production moved to Jianshe about then, it could very well be a grey import.

I'm not suggesting that it's a knock-off or anything hooky, by the way, just not an official UK model.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Evil Hans
World Chat Champion



Joined: 08 Nov 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 11:01 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmmm. Hope you got a good deal. Smile

And don't drop it because that fairing and tank skirt/trim will be irreplaceable!
____________________
Triumph Sprint ST 1050. And it's Red.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

GreekPhil
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 10 Jan 2016
Karma :
PostPosted: 11:02 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paid £900 26000 miles on the clock, I have found the front fairing on ebay but they are very hard to find indeed so I will indeed need to be careful haha!
____________________
There are two kinds of people in this world: Greeks, and everyone else who wish they were Greek.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Evil Hans
World Chat Champion



Joined: 08 Nov 2015
Karma :
PostPosted: 11:04 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
GreekPhil wrote:
Paid £900 26000 miles on the clock, I have found the front fairing on ebay but they are very hard to find indeed so I will indeed need to be careful haha!


That seems a good price, and it looks like it's in good condition. Ride it and enjoy it Smile

Also, if it's an import it might explain the extra speed. I read somewhere that while the Euro spec YBRs are only 10-ish HP, in some markets they are 12.
____________________
Triumph Sprint ST 1050. And it's Red.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 9 years, 354 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
 You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 
Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.11 Sec - Server Load: 0.29 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 135.35 Kb