race cans and MOTs

Simple · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Karma :

the little nsr has a scorpion race can on it,

theres no bsau stamp or 'not for road use' on it

so will it pass an mot?

simple

WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Karma :

rules have changed a while back

its down to the MOT tester to decide at his discretion
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Dom_ · Points Mean Prizes Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Karma :

Yes it should, as long as it's not ear peircing.

Rift. · Scooby Slapper Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Karma :

all about noise!!!
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instigator · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Karma :

Polish the stamp out with some abrasive polish.

But yeah, all down to the tester at the end of the day, although he's more likely to pass it if its not stamped with anything than if its stamped with "for race use only"

Whitetrash · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Karma :

Legislation now states that the can will only fail if;
it is stamped, NOT FOR ROAD USE
NOT FOR HIGHWAY USE
FOR TRACK USE ONLY etc

OR it is down to the MOT inspectors discretion to fail it on the grounds of excessive noise Karma

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jaffa · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Karma :

Bike manufacturers don't make bikes quiet for fun, legislation forces them to. If you fit a noisy after-market can that doesn't have the appropriate type approval stamp you should be prepared for the MOT inspector to fail it.

Personally I don't see the point, you're just forcing everyone you ride past to think, 'tosser', 'fucking noisy bastard', most of them aren't into bikes in the slightest, believe me they're not thinking 'wow, that's noisy, it sounds great, he must have a huge dick', they're thinking you are a huge dick like the guy with the red Nova that has a 10 inch diameter exhaust pipe coming out of the back and red windscreen wipers.

There are plenty of road legal cans about, but if you just want noise, that's exactly what the type-approval legislation is trying to prevent. Think how many Es you can buy with the money you save.
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Whitetrash · Banned Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Karma :

they dont need an aproval stamp anymore, a BS number, nothing... not a sausage
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dansuresh · Scooby Slapper Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Karma :

Hi

If the race can is road legal...will it be as noisy or will it be morw refined and still give the same performance??

Thanks

Dan

GOKU · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Karma :

IF the can is stamped NOT FOR ROAD USE...fail

STAMPED...FOR RACE USE ONLY..fail

if the bike has no stamp what so ever its a pass
unless the bike is louder than 56DB

and mot testers do not use DB checkers unless there twats

these are the rules that have currently come into affect if in doubt check with the tester if he will do it with this can and let him hear it..dont be scared to ask them..

GOKU · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Karma :

it all depends on the area you are in if you are in a area where there are houses on each side the can will see louder....but as for performance..there is no benifit on the roads to haveing a race can on..rather than noise

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triumphil · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Karma :

listen to keith, spot on. having done mot's till very recent, ( nov last year ) what keith says is the way the law and department of transport instruct the testers. no bs mark no pass simple. putting your own B S mark on wont work either. tested a number last year with a B S kitemark on, like the ones on electrical goods, nice try but nothing to do with motor vehicles. best thing to do if you really have to have a race can keep the standard one and swop over at MOT time. the removable baffle type also fall short, if the tester thinks its to noisey he will fail it so put the baffle back in. Wink

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GOKU · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Karma :

i agree with the cold factor

im running a G france full 4.2.1 system and art race can when cold not at its loudest when warm spot on Very Happy

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never did like the bandit to much..nice ride hight and comfy to boot...jst dont like em i guess.

like it goes you love it or hate it

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Problem with the Bandit is that it runs a bit lean between 2500 and 5000rpm. They could not manage to get the jetting right in that rev range with the combination of pipe, engine mods and the standard airbox with a K&N filter and the lid chopped off it. Not a problem in warm weather but the cold makes it more critical.

All the best

Keith
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Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Jaffa, don't you think that race cans do help alert drivers to the presence of a motorbike?

When I got my Thundercat it had the standard exhaust which was almost silent. I found that when filtering drivers consistently didn't notice me and as a result they would do silly things like U turns straight into my path.

When I got my race can I started to notice that many drivers would hear me and look in their mirrors and see me.

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Thats a risk which the rider has to decide if they want to take by looking at the risks and the benefits. You're not going to get done for your can unless you're really really taking the piss or find a really pissed off cop.

Failing MOT for a race can is quite daft as you do know that its a fail point and going to an MOT with one unless you know they don't mind is a waste of time.

mchaggis · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 May 2004 Karma :

The problem is when you bend the original system and they want many hundreds of pounds for a new one. When you can buy a new aftermarket non road legal system for a fraction of the price, what is the incentive to buy an OE one?

Another point I'd make is that it appears to me that there are hardly any exhaust manufacturers who even make road legal systems except for the OEMs anyway. Confused

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triumphil · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Karma :

after road legal ones that dont break the bank ??? try the motad venom's go to www.venomexhausts.com
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jonboy · Trackday Trickster Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Yep, plenty of companies selling road legal cans - akrapovic, venom, devil, yoshimura, micron etc etc.
This is my akra can with removable baffle, actually sounds quite quiet even with the baffle out (though it can set my car alarm off at 30 feet..)

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/jonboy99/Copyof100_0091.jpg

Ok, ok, the only reason I posted was to show off my new can Laughing