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[uber111]

Hello! i have the full German "AM" license for a 50cc mopeds, do I still need to do the CBT to ride an 125cc motorbike?

[M.C]

Hi, yes you do as a 125cc isn't a moped.

[Rogerborg]

I'd go with probably.

You don't have an A1 license, so the first thing you'll need is a UK license with provisional A entitlement.

Then the question is: does having a Euro AM validate your provisional, to which the answer is... maybe.

Or rather in practice it's whatever the DVLA, your insurer and the rozzers believe it to be. AM is a funny category, it's barely even considered in the regs or .gov descriptions.

I wouldn't bet on it.
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[el_oso]

DVLA said yes to my German driving license holding Japanese passport holding friend. I'm not 100% sure I trust their judgement.
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[uber111]

hey few days ago i have done the british CBT using the full AM license for 50cc, do i still need to get the uk provisional license to ride a 125cc?

[Andy_Pagin]

Post a picture of the back of your licence card, then we'll know.
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[uber111]

I marked it red its the full one but its for a 50cc not the 125cc
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[Pjay]

[Rogerborg]

[Going]

[Andy_Pagin]

I think the final answer is that having done the CBT you can ride a 49cc moped, drive a car and a tractor. Nothing else.
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[pbt]

Do you have a UK driving licence number? If so, and you have the relevant provisional entitlement, you can ride up to a learner legal 125 (or larger, whilst in radio contact with a suitably qualified instructor), as you have completed a CBT course.

If not, then any CBT course you may have done is invalid and you can't ride ANY powered two wheeler in the UK whatsoever. Your AM entitlement, according to your licence, started with your car entitlement, which means on the face of it, you didn't pass your test on an AM machine. So, you need to hold, or have held a valid CBT in order to validate your AM entitlement on UK roads.

[Pjay]

There is a lot of misinformation here. I would just like to clear up some facts.

EU Licences are exactly the same across the EU, all member states are equal. Some countries allow differing allowances with regards to what you can and cant do with these allowances, but in the UK you are entitled to:

AM Category - Ride a moped upto 50cc After CBT completion.

CBT Cert - Light motorcycle up to 11 kW (and a power-to-weight ratio not more than 0.1 kW per kg) and 125 cc and Display L Plates.

All other information is pointless, as you are asking if you can ride a 125 with AM and a CBT, the answer is yes, as long as you display L plates and renew your CBT when it expires.

There really is no more you need to know.

[Rogerborg]

[Pjay]

[Rogerborg]

Well, you've provoked me into finding a source for your assertion, so I guess that's a win.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/part/III/crossheading/community-licence-holders

[Pjay]

Things have changed and that link is full of old legislation, it say so at the top.

Since June 2015, the counterpart is no longer issued.
Provisonal entitlements are no longer shown on licences, they are automatically granted when meeting the necessary criteria.

I have no provisional entitlement on my photocard, I can only find this information out, when looking online at my personal entitlements.

There is no provisional entitlement for me riding a 125cc bike on my licence or on the site, does this mean I am riding illegally?
No, of course not.

Licences have changed recently, old information is no longer valid.

He can legally ride a 125cc with a CBT and L Plates. There is little point in confusing the matter with websites full of old information.

[Rogerborg]

[Pjay]

[Rogerborg]

And what does the new law say?
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