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heeealer
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 11 Jan 2016    Post subject: No (Bike) License => Direct Access Reply with quote
First off - I'm sorry - have tried to use the search function - guessing I was asking the wrong question or at least wording it incorrectly...

I've wanted a bike license for a while. My dad got his full A license around 9 years ago and he's the only guide I've got at this point.

I'm 31 and have had a car license since I was 19. When I told him I wanted to get a bike, he said just do the CBT, then book a week off work and book in for the real test, find a decent riding school and have done with it.

I can see the logic in this - buy a bigger bike when you're fully licensed, saves on the 125 in between, but (the other side of my brain) it also cuts down the time spent on a bike...

Is this a route that any of you have been through?

Cheers,

Phil.
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wristjob
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 12 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
he is sort of right but its not the whole story.
book and do a cbt .
you might hate being on a bike and this will tell you.
if you love it you are on your way.
you then need a theory test,its easy if you swat up on the practice tests online,easy to fail if you dont(even if you are an experienced driver)some of the questions are daft.
then find a bike school local to you and you can do an intensive course in a week or you might need less ,the test is in 2 bits now and you cant do the second till you pass the 1st.plenty of info about that on here and everywhere else.
do it.
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Val
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 12 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: No (Bike) License => Direct Access Reply with quote
Hi Phil welcome to the BCF Very Happy

heeealer wrote:
I can see the logic in this - buy a bigger bike when you're fully licensed, saves on the 125 in between, but (the other side of my brain) it also cuts down the time spent on a bike...


Not sure that I follow your logic how getting a license cuts down the time spent on a bike?

Anyhow have you ride push bike?

If yes the chance is you will like motor bike too, go for the full license.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 12 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
So many people think doing a weeks intensive course is the only way to get a bike licence. It's not the only way, and it's usually not the best way.


For learning to drive, intensive courses are the minority, most people have a lesson or two a week and some can get some practice in between on their own time.

You can do the same with bikes... find an instructor who will do one or two days a week, whether half-days or full days.


It'll allow you to go away and digest what you've learnt, you'll be under less pressure and stress to "get it done", and riding non-stop for a week is hard work when you're not learning, never mind when you are.
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 12 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Llama-Farmer wrote:
So many people think doing a weeks intensive course is the only way to get a bike licence. It's not the only way, and it's usually not the best way.


Kind of agree. I have recommended people go away after a borderline CBT and get some road experience on a 125 before considering DAS. Some people just need time on a tiddler before being let loose on a big bike.


Llama-Farmer wrote:
For learning to drive, intensive courses are the minority, most people have a lesson or two a week and some can get some practice in between on their own time.

You can do the same with bikes... find an instructor who will do one or two days a week, whether half-days or full days.


The problem with Car lessons is it gets spread out for an hour or 2 a week and it takes longer because you spend the first half hour of your hour session going over what you done the following week so in essence you do not really get the full amount of training.


Llama-Farmer wrote:
It'll allow you to go away and digest what you've learnt, you'll be under less pressure and stress to "get it done", and riding non-stop for a week is hard work when you're not learning, never mind when you are.


See above We would have to spend time recapping from where you left off.

There are not many schools that will offer hourly, half day lessons because it is simply a waste of time and money. It will cost you more in the long run. Any school worth its salt will teach you how to ride, not how to pass a test (unlike the car instructors) and we will teach you to ride by getting you to ride for several hours in a day.

A CBT road ride for example, is 2 hours long. By the time your instructor takes you on the road they are already 90% sure you have been safe enough to be signed off. The 2 hours on road is not really needed in that respect. The 2 hours on the road is more to get the student used to road riding and relaxed at it. I have watched many students visibly loosen up as the first hour passes and by the end of the second hour they are having a blast.

A DAS course works the same way. By the time you have had an hour it is time to come home and you have not really done enough to relax. On day 1 of our DAS course you spend the first half of the day, a good 3-4 hours just getting miles under your belt on a big bike. This gets you familiar with riding a big bike and relaxed on the thing so in the afternoon we can start teaching you how to control it in preperation for mod 1.

Do a CBT, if you like it, get the theory test done and then book in for a 3 day DAS. Explain to the instructor on your CBT that you want to go onto DAS and he will give you an assessment as to price and time it will take to train you.
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