Argument needs settling!!!

[Dom_]

Me and a idiot are arguing over something.

Right, he reckons my bike will accelerate quicker if it had a 16" front wheel on rather than the 17" despite them being the same weight.

I reckon it will make no difference.


Let me know your opinions, thanks, Dom.

[hugo-a-gogo]

he's an idiot

front wheel will make no difference to acceleration
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clicky 4 bikey

[haGGard]

It will only make a differance if your back wheel changes size. Changing the size of your front wheel will have no effect, whatsoever

[Reevo8]

Wait for Kickstart's official and correct answer. But I agree with you. I think that it will only affect your turn in speed, and not you accelleration or top speed. It should just turn quicker.
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[jaffa]

Does he think its front wheel drive?

The speedo will read faster with a 16" front (by about 6%), so he might have done it before and think it was accelerating more quickly, but he's wrong of course.
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[hugo-a-gogo]

wait, is your bike front wheel drive?

edit: mindpiss, you read my thoughts!
/puts on tinfoil hat
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them - but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one. That is why they are dangerous."
Hunter S Thompson
clicky 4 bikey

[jaffa]

[binge]

I agree with jaffa!

If the front wheel is smaller, your speedo will read faster than real life.

Go get a 22" front wheel and your speedo might Just give you a correct reading

[Dom_]

He's Jonny off 125ccsb and aprilia forum (the one that posted a thread about him beating rossi if he was on an rs125 and rossi was on a cbr125)

Keep replying, i need as much evidence as i can get, lol.

[Scotsman37]

He probably thinks if your bike is pointing downwards at the front it will not allow your bike to lift up at the front and allow you to attain maximum speed i.e like what a racing car spoiler does to keep the car basically glued to the ground while travelling at the maximum possible speed what the engine can produce.

If you've ever had a chance sit on a racing bike, like I have, then you would realise that you get a feeling that you're going to flip forward if you braked hard because it gves you a false sensation that you're hanging over the front of the bike, but in reality you are not due to your body position being kept low and of course the front forks are amazingly powerfull too.

Now, if he stuck a turbo-charger on his bike then it would go like a bat out of hell....as some nutter did with a Hayabusa !

[binge]

Ok, If you put a 500kg front wheel on, then yes, It would make acceleration slower. If you put a smaller wheel But nearly same weight as the normal, Then it wont make any noticable difference. It will just cause the speedo to rear incorrectly and will appear to be riding faster.

ANYBODY could beat rossi on a RS125 if he was on a CBR125 (providing its a straight liner )
On a circuit you would have no chance.
And anyway, What a poof, why not race rossi on a CBR125 aswel!


<|Ben|>

[Dom_]

lol, my bike is only an rs50, putting out about 10~14hp with the mods.

[binge]

What mods?

[Dom_]

DR73.5cc Big-Bore
Dell'orto 21mm carb
MK exhaust
MK clutch

Pics of em are in my thread in the photos section, may be in page 2 by now.

[instigator]

[Dom_]

Yeah thats probably him lol.

Heres the link for the pics binge https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33606&highlight=first+bike i think there on the 2nd page.

[Will87]

Smaller wheels accelerate quicker and that is a fact, however they don't hold speed as well as larger wheels, but in this case as it is only the front i believe it has no affect or it may have only so tiny an affect it's not noticeable.

[mchaggis]

[G]

Lowering the front does make a difference on a bike that has a decent amount of power. However, you would probably want to raise the front to keep the same handling if you put a 17" wheel on.

Similarly, a heavier front wheel will mean you can accelerate slightly quicker, due to the front being sligtly heavier, which may cancel out the effects from a heavier wheel as far as rotational inertia goes.

However, the effects either way will be pretty small.

[Dom_]

[jaffa]

[Dom_]

ok let me get a few things straight.

Jonny owned an RS50 Extrema using the slightly more powerful AM5 engine, i have an RS50 Replica that uses the AM6 engine, slightly less powerful but has 6 gears. Jonny ran the same big-bore as me, same carb, same clutch and same exhaust. He's telling me his bike did 0-60 in 10 seconds whilst on the same gearing will hit a 80mph top speed.
I told him that was impossible on this setup, he then goes blabbering on about how the extrema models have a 16" front wheel fitted (standard on all extremas) which will improve the acceleration. When i tell him this is bollocks, all he does is go off topic and start telling me that his AM5 engine was more powerful, and as soon as i say 'yes i know it was, but thats not the point, the point is that you think a 16" front wheel will make you quicker' he then just goes off topic again so never really explains his stupid theory.

So just to get things clear, he hasn't fitted a 16" front wheel to a 17" front wheeled bike. The bike is standard with a 16"

[jaffa]

I think all the posts are in agreement, your mate is talking out of his arse. Whatever makes the bike with the 16" wheel quicker (if indeed it is quicker) it isn't the size of the front wheel.

I'm bored of this now, I'm out of this thread.
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[Will87]

pardon?