G4S total waste of money

[oldpink]

how the f*ck are they still being awarded contracts (sorry forgot their tory masters are awarding the contracts)

[Rogerborg]

Those poor, poor troubled teens. Why didn't the outnumbered, overworked and underpaid staff just treat them with dignity and respect, and they'd instantly have mended their ways?
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

We've recently taken over the IT from G4S for Rainsbrook :-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/04/g4s-loses-contract-to-run-rainsbrook-young-offender-facility

[Ste]

The Daily Mirror (who I expect are on Corbyns payroll) is also a total waste of money.

[oldpink]

roger they may be toe rags that deserve to be locked up
but the thing here is total neglect of duty and legal intimidation and violence

[Lord Percy]

Saw this on facebook today - BBC video clip - G4S prison guys bragging about beating up youth inmates

[Rogerborg]

[Lord Percy]

[Im-a-Ridah]

G4S is like a staffing agency on steroids. Profits are all they care about, they're not remotely interested in the service they are supposed to be delivering.

[Ribenapigeon]

Terrible as im sure G4S are I wouldn't mind if they provided a specialist detention service for motorcycle thieves.

And there's is no reason you cant rehabilitate someone after they've had their fingers cut off.

I say this as a "lefty" (politically).

[Ste]

Prison guards giving a gobby kid a smack is rehabilitating said gobby kid.

[Skudd]

Having dealt with such little darling a good smack is what they need. They will also push every button that they can to get you to react and then play the victim.
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[Ed Case]

If a parent had given some of these little twats a thick ear or two much earlier in their lives they quite possibly wouldn't be in these places. They ought never forget "There's always some-one tougher".

[Skudd]

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[Rogerborg]

Such sad backgrounds, most in care or with single mothers and nine temporary dads, why has nobody ever given them a chance.

[Sload]

Seems right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jt4RtXJGAg
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[Polarbear]

I don't give a fuck.

Their choice to become a criminal. Kick the crap out of the scumbags as far as I'm concerned.
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[Lord Percy]

Everyone disagreeing with my point about prisons being for rehabilitation and beat-ups just causing repeat offence...

The problem is you're thinking that the 'opposite' of this is to feed them tea and crumpets and give them a butler, turn them into little princes and make them feel special and want to rejoin normal society.

That's really not the case at all. It's about understanding each one individually, seeing what their issue is and what can be done to undo it, to reform them. Would you rather they spent their whole life committing crime and affecting society again and again, or just the once and then onto proper rehabilitation.

There are a few who are considered as actual emotionless psychopaths, the ones who are indifferent to all emotional cues from their peers and will do whatever they please without consideration for others. They just need locking away or being put in an institute. But the rest are just normal folk with the wrong upbringing.

The prison system is a failure which is so deep-rooted that nobody dares to alter it. Locking lads away, beating them up, or even just putting them in a 'nice' prison with PS4s and pool tables won't make a jot of difference to a lot of them.

A lad I know was one of these types, an annoying rough little (well, pretty big) scrote in the Brighton area whose sole motivation was to be an arse to authority and the police. I dunno how many times he spent in cells but he was a known face in that circuit. Then he was taken on by A Band of Brothers, who focus on the actual problems of young men and give them a sense of purpose and belonging. Turns out that's all they really need.

To say 'fuck them' is the same as saying 'fuck society' on the whole. You're essentially saying you're happy for them to continue as they are, without any regard whatsoever for their contribution to crime statistics in the country. You can argue that 'there will always be bad people', but it's pretty obvious some countries are better at dealing with it than others - global crime stats.

The UK has a long way to go before it can have any sense of pride over it's crime levels. Do you really thinking beating up offenders and leaving them to rot will do anything to make the country better or safer in any way..???

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[Polarbear]