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PostPosted: 19:06 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Viewing a 2005 GSF650 Bandit tomorrow Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm looking at buying my 1st big bike tomorrow. It's a low mileage 2005 GSF650 Bandit.

Is there anything in particular I should be looking out for?

Thanks in advance....


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PostPosted: 19:25 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure they have the pillow mod so you can fall asleep when bored without risk of having a sore neck.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, one with twice the engine capacity. Bandits are boring and slow at the best of times (unless CHR1S has got his hands on it) and ther 600 version is much boringer and slowerer than the 1200 or 1250.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP wrote:
2005 GSX650 Bandit

Come again?

GSX650F/FA or GSF650S/SA? Are you not UK based? We didn't get the 650s until 2007.

Either way, the 650s are ludicrously heavy at nearly 1/4 tonne wet, and top heavy at that. Suzuki finish. Other than that, meh. You literally get a lot of bike for the money, which I guess is a positive for some.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Viewing a 2005 GSX650 Bandit tomorrow Reply with quote

Jackboy wrote:
Is there anything in particular I should be looking out for?

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PostPosted: 20:31 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faster than you'll ever need. You'll overtake lots of summer power rangers on their 1000RR whatevers. Middle Finger Laughing Get what's right for your budget to tinker/play with then get your dream bike.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so it's the 650 air/oil cooled version without ABS or hydraulic clutch. Not quite as lardy as the water cooled version, but shorter service intervals. Some danger of collision with an anodised accessory catalogue, needs to be very cheap.

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faster than most cars on the road. Perhaps check for down/link pipes condition and brake caliper operation, common niggles with them.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my test on one ('05 model). They're not that bad, I wouldn't call them boring, but for me bikes are like strippers, do you really want a fat one... really? Very Happy

As the Borg says they're heavy (iirc 220kg) and they're top heavy. Obviously I haven't owned one so don't know the ins and outs, but the one I rode had an annoying habit of slipping out of neutral, you had to let the clutch out slowly and see if it was going to slip into gear. Might have just been a shagged training school bike, but it looked in good condition. Also I agree that a Bandit has to be cheap Smile
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all (well most!)

My plan is to have something sensible for a 1st bike until I learn how ride (have passed my test but have very limited time on the road - a few hours training) and then decide what I really want / need.

Unfortunately I don't have a link. It was on a Buy It Now on eBay before Xmas for £2100 but didn't sell.

I've spoken to him a couple of times since and am hopeful that I could get it for £1800.

It's a GSF sorry, not a GSX. It naked on a 55 plate with 4500 miles.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a cheap bike that got more sensible with later versions. Mk1 600 somehow has allegations of feeling criminal and being a hoolingan bike. Later variants have "grown up into cheap, sensible and practical commuters..."

I think they're a bit on the lardy side but their size makes them a comfy bike. My 2002 600S is really surefooted in dicey comditions, stable under braking and has reasonable projector headlights, although they were vastly improved by aiming properly and fitting osram nightbreakers. Once i'd blown the cobwebs off it has been a doddle to ride round town, it's at its best between 8000 and redline but its not sportsbike fast.

Sensible.

Not for the kind of keyboard commando who insists anything with less than 100 horses is an inadequate commuter.

Cheap and popular with cheapskates, new riders, riding schools, and high milers. Look for signs of a big crash. Wear is ok. Be suspicious of new parts, as it likely means crash or poor maintnance. Finish is typically suzuki. Bandit owners like to mod, so check for anything that could give you major insurance hastle. Some insurers will give upto a 30% loading for a shouty can, but expect major hastle if the can is not e-marked or is stamped "for off road use only" or suchlike. Check the electrics, badly grafted in heated grips, chargers or alarms will give you a headache, but is easily sorted. Look where crash bungs or engine bars would have been fitted for signs of a damaged frame after a big off.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Viewing a 2005 GSF650 Bandit tomorrow Reply with quote

Jackboy wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking at buying my 1st big bike tomorrow. It's a low mileage 2005 GSF650 Bandit.

Is there anything in particular I should be looking out for?


Look out for Volvos Very Happy

Seriously if you pay more than £1500 you have been robbed.

Assuming you mean this model: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/suzuki/gsf650-bandit/2005/

Look out for rust on the frame and front calipers if neglected may be stuck if not maintained well.

Otherwise the engine is buletproof. Some people say its top heavy.

I don't care I like it better then newer X6J. The seat and the riding position are perfect for me. Almost bought one.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Been told it is mod free and has no addons (heated grips etc).

I have HPI'd it and there's nothing untoward.

It doesn't have any documented service history, but I'm hoping there will be receipts.

Yeah, that's the bike in the link with the review. I'm pretty sure £1500 would get me a slap! I haven't seen any round here (South Wales) for anything under £1750 with a lot more miles - admittedly with service history though.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jackboy wrote:
Unfortunately I don't have a link. It was on a Buy It Now on eBay before Xmas for £2100 but didn't sell.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-Suzuki-gsf650-bandit-/291638776553?hash=item43e70692e9:g:sPYAAOSw7FRWbtlj

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-Suzuki-gsf650-bandit-/291644469457?

The mileage may be legit; it apparently did -1 miles between its 2014/2015 MOTs. Have a good look at its condition though to see if it's consistent.

If it's still on its original tyres, exhaust, chain, sprocket and forks then it may be worn out with age rather than mileage. View it in person.

The seller is too lazy and ignorant to bother typing up a useful advert, and hasn't bothered putting a new MOT on it, so don't expect him to be reasonable on price even if every consumable needs replaced. Be prepared to walk away, regardless of the mileage or his claims that it needs nothing done.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the one, thanks.

Didn't see it go up for the second time. Yeah, the description did put me off a bit. I'm guessing it put a few others off too.

Apparently had new sprocket and chain and rear tyre in March and May respectively.

MOT is due in May I think.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the slightly older 600 k4. Been really happy with it - I use it for my daily commute and the occasional bit of a weekend hoon. Fast enough for an old boy like me Wink

They are pretty bombproof but look out for corrosion on the frame and rear peg hangers, and especially on the exhaust collector.

1500 would be my target price unless it's exceptional.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

The mileage may be legit; it apparently did -1 miles between its 2014/2015 MOTs. Have a good look at its condition though to see if it's consistent.

No MOT for nearly two years between 2011-2013. I've been told I'm too suspicious but that concerns me a little.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A local man with a van to take the bike home in, fudge risk riding on roads than resemble an ice rink.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm assuming that it's a 2nd or 3rd bike. I wouldn't be amazed to hear that it was bought for some particular purpose that it's not been used for.

It's probably all legit, but don't be too dazzled by the mileage. It's two generations old and has likely been neglected.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 15 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I was a bit put off by being SORN for 2 years, but I've heard of quite a few since.

The seller can't explain it as he's only had it a year - covered around 1500miles in that time.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, well, that's actually good news that it's been used.

Condition, condition, condition though.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all.

Basically I just need to check that everything looks and feels right then. And hope there's some history.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 16 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:49 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you buy it?

I passed my mod 2 last year and got a bandit 6 2001, it's a great bike to learn on, bored? No not after 125 power for a year, I'm a believer in learning acoustic guitar before shredding on electric.. Learn long learn pure.. I'll look out for a lt bike next year, would like a blade but need 2up. I'll tell you this, blandit or not, from a 125 when you papa 6k and 9 k on the revs it don't seem boring. A big plus is I know I've made rookie mistakes on mine and its forgiven me time and time again. You can ride on the 6 k power band and have decent power on tap, or slap it in 5 th gear and cruise a big hulky thing around.

Bike sounds a bit like mine, my tyres where 04! And slippy stiff shite, stick some pilot road 4's on and love it.. I ride all year round. If you want a sunny Sunday toy to polish and take down the cafe don't get a bandit.. If you want a bike to ride anytime that's not got GS in the name in my rookie opinion, you could do worse. And out of all the 1st big bikes, bandits are the coolest a bit like the vw golf imo.. Everyone has had one, everyone knows them and although a little passé in light of current offering still a giggle..

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PostPosted: 09:42 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't go far wrong with a Bandit, just avoid the rust heaps and super high-milers.

And contrary to popular myth you can have fun on a Bandit. I took mine to Cadwell and had a good battle with some lads on R6s. It's also fun to deck out the pegs at every roundabout..

The centre stand makes maintenance easier and the 200 mile tank range is useful when doing distances or commuting.

I think I had more fun down country lanes on my 600 than the 1200 as the tyres were skinnier and the bike was lighter. Each to their own though.
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