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Conker92
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: honda xr125l or kawasaki eliminator 125??? Reply with quote

Recently lost my beloved Honda cg125 and I am looking for a new bike to replace it. Found two fantastic condition bikes for around the same price and wanting to know which one is known as the better, reliable, faster, mpg and all that. Thank you.

Honda xr125l or Kawasaki eliminator 125!
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: honda xr125l or kawasaki eliminator 125??? Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
Found two fantastic condition bikes for around the same price and wanting to know which one is known as the better, reliable, faster, mpg and all that.

The one that, in reality is actually even close to being in 'fantastic' condition.
Neither going to be factory fresh. both will have learners abuse them. Look beyond the shiny bits and make up your own mind!
When new, the Honda was a 'budget' trail-style commuter, a CG with knoblies for folk that couldn't afford a DT.
Kwak was a contender for the Cruiserette crown, built up to and priced against the Honda 125 Shaddow...
When NEW the Kwak, if you like that sort of thing, would have been by far the more expensive and almost certainly better built bike....
Now?
Like I say, look beyond the shiney bits, kick the tyres, tug the chain, sniff the oil, look at the sump plug, and make up your own mind!
What they were like new is pretty irrelevent.
all else equal, I'd probably err towards the Honda as the 'safer' bet, being the more popular, more common bike, with all the 'cheap' spares, if needed provided to the whole CG/CG-copy contingent... ALL ELSE being equal.... I doubt it is.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So which one if they seemed both in good condition? Which one has been deemed better over the years?
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: honda xr125l or kawasaki eliminator 125??? Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
Recently lost my beloved Honda cg125

Did you try down the back of the sofa?

I know that you can only buy bikes that are for sale, but they're very different. You can't really want both of them and you're not going to make a factual decision based on random intardtubers' opinions, so how about you tell us which one you like and we'll confirm it for you?

If you're genuinely asking, then the Eliminator is much less likely to get stolen. That's why you should get the XR.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

XR's have held their value surprisingly well, so might be a wise investment depending on how much it's. I wouldn't have another, awful vibrations and the fork dive's enough to put me off. You'd probably get pulled over less on the Eliminator as well.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I am kinda asking is a general opinion of which bike is overall preferred. Honda xr125l is well looked after and is £860 the Kawasaki eliminator 125 is the same well looked after but has had a matte black paint job all over at £795.
Just wanting a good honest verdict of what each bike is like
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who do you imagine has ridden both of them for long enough to give a reasoned comparison?

One's a psuedo-offroader, the other's a psuedo-cruiser. Neither is extreme, both will do as commuters. But I don't believe that they both appeal to you equally. How could they?

Even if they did, they'll both be well used at those prices, so do yourself a favour and buy on actual condition.

What does "well looked after" mean? How many miles have they done? How many owners? Is there any record of them being serviced? What state are the consumables on each bike? New tyres, chain, sprockets, battery and fork seals could run you half of those asking prices.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conker92 wrote:
All I am kinda asking is a general opinion of which bike is overall preferred.


Overall I would prefer the XR125, but that's because I don't like the look of cruiser style bikes.

The question is, which do you prefer? You are the guy that has to ride it.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to have the xr125l because id say its more suited to my style and riding style. Thanks everyone for your advice.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no reason not to, except for the actually real consideration that pikeys love 'em. If you "lost" your CG to theft, I'd prioritise security over everything else.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 18 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's not an accurate measure, but I never had anyone try to steal mine, and that's parking it on a dodgy council estate. I got the impression the XR didn't have much street cred, had a lot more attention with the MT-03 Shifty
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old XR125 was great, didn't have any problems either with attempted theft etc.
And I sold it for more than I bought it for, so value wise they seem to hold their own.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

get a honda msx 125

mine does 125mpg now after run in and petrol is £4 a tank which lasts 120 miles before reserve
does 60mph and is very stable and the fueling is very smooth

servicing is dead easy loads of vids on youtube how to do it
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're both slow imitations of what they are trying to look like but at least the XR may get down a green lane, so that gets my vote.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noob question again, what is a green lane? Also I currently have a hire Yamaha ybr125 2015 model and I think it sucks so I think anything would be either on level or better
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 19 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This...
https://www.norfolktrf.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2011-06-25-15.40.52-500x255.jpg
That's one annoying thing about having a dirt bike, people ask you if you've taken it off road a lot (normally with a smug look).

Not ridden a YBR but are they that different to a CG? IIRC they have a couple less horsepower but a 2015 model's probably going to be on a par with any old XR/CG. Also you know the XR is just a CG engine in a dirt bike frame right? If you were going for a DT then I could see it being something different, but all the 4-stroke 125's are pretty similar.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 20 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the XR.

I had one as my first bike:

https://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o520/bikerrtomm/Main_zps3600cd1b.jpg


You'll have no problems with it keeping it's value, or selling it either.

Great fun, highly reliable and able to bump about, curbs, go down muddy tracks, the list goes on. (Maybe through woods.. Mr. Green ) Loved mine. Thumbs Up
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