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PostPosted: 15:54 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Tracker success stories? Reply with quote

I'm moving next week and will have to keep my bike on the road. Has anyone here actually recovered their bike due to it being fitted with a tracker? I'm just thinking of getting a cheapo GPS one as opposed to one of the expensive annual license ones, but I wondered if anyone had an actual result with one as opposed to all the marketing shite you read?

Otherwise chains and a cover (and the fact the bike is a shitter) is going to be my security Sad
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only one that I've seen actual owners say resulted in a recovery is BikeTrac.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOO, good question, personally never heard of any.

Also, what % of people here use them?
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tot uses one on here on his R1 iirc, he did a relatively long post about it somewhere. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have BikeTrac. I checked on my phone and my bike is still exactly where I left it Thumbs Up

Wasn't there a story of a guy's bike that ended up in Eastern Europe and was picked up again shortly afterwards?

EDIT - Found it here
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is there such a market in these Eastern block countries for usually expensive exotica? High taxes on new bikes there? Must be a reason other than just because they can, obviously.

There obviously a massive demand! Assuming they end up sold as a bike and not parts.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the police don't care about stolen motorbikes.

I had a BikeTrac on my KTM 690 SMC many years ago now and while it didn't get nicked the tracker worked spot on. Had a few phone calls with BikeTrac until I set it up properly (I used to move the bike around with ignition off) and they are spot on. The route tracker thing was mint too, I used it all the time. Annoying finding a new route and not remembering where it is for next time - problem solved.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 21 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
I have BikeTrac. I checked on my phone and my bike is still exactly where I left it Thumbs Up



Or is your tracker exactly where you left your bike... Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:
Because the police don't care about stolen motorbikes.

That's why I find BikeTrac most credible as they make a big deal of liaising with the rozzers. If they can hand them credible evidence to justify them entering private property and getting an easy collar, they might go for it.

Barry Biker calls them up, says "My bike's been nicked, right, but I have an approximate location from some cheap Chinese tracker that I bought on eBay. It's in one of them fifty lockups, deffo, unless that's just when the battery died, or the £5 tracker is talking bollocks."

Better than nothing, but I wouldn't expect Dibble to start smashing in back doors.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Balls, hadn't thought of that angle. 1000 thanks.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look on the BikeTrac or Tracker FB pages - every week they post a few bike return success stories. For me it's worth it for the peace of mind that I can look at my phone and be sure my bike's where I left it.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I wouldn't expect Dibble to start smashing in back doors.


Unless you stick your all public road wheelie footage on Youtube Cool
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use quite a few of those cheap Chinese 'GPS' trackers off eBay, but only the 4-wire ones.

They cost about £15, but most of them don't have an actual GPS chipset in them - so I don't think they would be any good for tracking stolen property.

The oldest one that I have still running, has been working reliably for nearly 3 years, gets used once or twice a week, and I have never had a problem with any of them.

The location service is crap though, especially where there is only one or two GPS signals within range, they can report being be up to a mile away from where they are actually located!

The SIM Card costs me £5 each for 3 months.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
waffles wrote:
I have BikeTrac. I checked on my phone and my bike is still exactly where I left it Thumbs Up



Or is your tracker exactly where you left your bike... Shocked


Oh. I really hope so!
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

taken from the Stolen in London link,

"With the bike now in Lithuania, the Bike Trac team in the UK stayed up through Tuesday night, keeping track of the bike as it continued its journey east"

So they dont cover 24/7, if they are bed you will get no response ?

also they mentioned that the UK Police wouldnt get a warrant, so lets hope if your bike was stolen it is kept out in the open or the Police wont help ?
"SOC quickly tracked the bike to a known location not far away in London, but due to this area being densely populated, local police could not offer us a search warrant even with our Radio Frequency technology showing a strong signal. "
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, it's only more likely that you'll get it back with BikeTrac than with some cheapy solution that can "report being be up to a mile away from where they are actually located".
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Indeed, it's only more likely that you'll get it back with BikeTrac than with some cheapy solution that can "report being be up to a mile away from where they are actually located".


Like I said - they are crap for determining location. The one's I use are static and never move - I only use them for turning a relay on and off via SMS.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't technology suitable for this task be easily available in this day and age.

Something like a small gps and mobile phone unit controlled by one of those arduino style boards which checks to see if its been moved or been shaken about,then send a text with location every so often and when called for or linked to an alarm.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I got my bike back in the condition it was stolen is one thing. If it came back damaged, with electrics ripped out etc, I'd rather not see it again and just claim off insurance.

So do I want a tracker or just try and not get it stolen first Thinking

Nice to be able to check on where it is it though. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 22 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So tempted to try with something like this - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Waterproof-GSM-GPS-Vehicle-Tracker-SMS-Locator-Anti-Theft-Car-Tracking-3EB0-/271973836492?hash=item3f52e766cc:g:MEoAAOSwT6pV5VXV - it insists (upon itself) that it is true GPS, plus has a shake/vibration alarm - rather than screeching and annoying neighbours it will text me so I can check it out.

However given the reasons above, if it did get pinched and if I did get a location I suspect recovering it would be a job for my good self and I'd struggle to get anyone else interested.
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every bike I've had has had a sticker on it claiming it has a tracker, a convincing blinking light and either datatool microdot things or alphadots. Never had one stolen.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just fitted (today in fact) this tk102 tracker

Reason being I'm having to leave my bike in an open car park for a couple of months with zero street furniture. So she's getting twin disc locks (both alarmed, but one of them is as sensitive as Katie Hopkins) and a tracker.

Got it because, as I understand it, quite often there is a 24-48hour window in which vehicles are dumped on a quiet side street before being taken for breaking or shipping. So it _might_ help, and for the price I figured worth a try.

Can be set to notify when moving, when taking a whack etc

There are running costs. You have to stump up for a PAYG Sim (one comes with the package, but it's data usage isn't the cheapest and it's stuck on divert to voicemail which the mobile company claim to have disabled, but I can only contact the device using the app and txt, I can't ring it currently). Every time you txt it a command, it costs a send from your phone and a send from the tracker (currently 19p). I've spent £6 today just setting it up and titting about. But in reality, it's probably £10 every 90 days to keep it active.

8,700 sales. Wouldn't it be funny if they were just collecting a huge database of vehicles and their locations to sell to thieves.... Shocked


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PostPosted: 23:02 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
You have to stump up for a PAYG Sim (one comes with the package, but it's data usage isn't the cheapest and it's stuck on divert to voicemail which the mobile company claim to have disabled


The biggest issue being its needs a 2G sim. Which are very hard to come by.
A quick google brought up a gifgaf thread about this problem. Including a link to the same item as you got. The only way they managed to get it working was with a old sim (get digging in the back of old phone or draws and hope they still work). The new ones despite supposed to be backward compatible did not work.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 24 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Pigeon wrote:
You have to stump up for a PAYG Sim (one comes with the package, but it's data usage isn't the cheapest and it's stuck on divert to voicemail which the mobile company claim to have disabled


The biggest issue being its needs a 2G sim. Which are very hard to come by.
A quick google brought up a gifgaf thread about this problem. Including a link to the same item as you got. The only way they managed to get it working was with a old sim (get digging in the back of old phone or draws and hope they still work). The new ones despite supposed to be backward compatible did not work.


Well, I rang the phone company and got the voicemail disabled after 8 minutes on hold. So now I can ring the device as well as texting.
So it seems to be working ok now.

Bikes in the garage at the minute and the location it gave on google maps was next doors front garden. I estimate that to be about 4-5 meters out. Pretty impressive considering where the device is on the bike and the bike is in a concrete garage, albeit with just an asbestos roof.
I asked the device for the actual street address and it gave my address Thumbs Up

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The manual says to add +44 to front of the "admin" phone. Don't do this, it won't respond to you except via text. I only found this when I downloaded the android app and re-ran the setup procedure and spotted that the app did not use +44 like the manual said to do.
Interestingly, the same device (but sold through someone else) has a slightly different online manual which explains that you should only use +countrycode when you are calling from another country. Not something this manual says as it states "you must".
So minus points for an important cockup in the docs and the voicemail activated sim. But other than that, so far so good. Quite impressed really, but early doors.
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