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PostPosted: 19:31 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Fuck you Honda you fucking fucks - And fuck my breakdown too Reply with quote

Pretty damn fuming at the moment.

Apparently Honda decided to fit a mystery headlight size to my VFR, I've now tried a general headlight pack, and two different individual packs of headlights but nothing is the correct size. They're basically an H7, the connector fits an H7. But the spring retaining clip isn't tight with a standard H7 bulb. Google doesn't help, H7 apparently. Nope!

Long story short I'm headlightless despite having one known working bulb of the correct type and a bag full of useless fucking spares. Tried the fuses to no avail. And it's dark, and pissing it down. Fuck this shit.

I'll just call my breakdown recovery then. Can I find the correct number on their website? Like fuck.

Conveniently the sales team pick up immediately and are able to give me the correct number for recovery - less conveniently there is no offer to transfer me - "Do you have a pen and paper?" - Good thing I'm not at the side of the road then!

Shame the recovery number isn't so efficient to answer! 10 minutes of "You are number 1 in the queue" and I'm just about ready to boil. Predictably the sales team is super speedy to answer the line second time around too - nice to see they've got their priorities in order! I'm guessing a conveyed my level of pissed off just right, this time they managed to find the call transfer number.

So I'm settled in for a long wait, luckily I'm in a warm office with a full vending machine around the corner. It's the little things in life Laughing

I suppose there should be some point to my rant, so if you could kindly point me in the direction of the correct headlamp size I'd appreciate it greatly!
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and before anybody suggests it, yes I'm doing the clip correctly, a side by side comparison shows the lamp is definitely bulkier than a standard H7 lamp.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: vfr Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RLdxYddj0s

says standard bulb will do Confused
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it an import?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have specified, it's a V-tec, post 2001 IIRC.

Not an import that I know of, fairly certain it was registered from new in the UK.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osram say H4, how many pins do the connectors have?

2001 is H4. Twin filament, 3 pins, 60/55w
2002 on is H7. Single filament, 2 pins. 55w
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/pieces-honda-detail-15264-13MCW601-VFR800A8-2008-F__0100-VFR+800+VTEC+ABS.html

You sure its not part 5 you are missing?

My old HR-V used to have these things, sort of like a white plastic bakelite affair that went between loom and light and without it ... the light would flap about like a sausage in an alley.

However ......

https://www.bike-parts-honda.com/pieces-honda-detail-4838-13MBGW41-VFR800FI1-2001-F__0100-VFR+800.html

But that does NOT look like a normal profile H7 bulb.

off to Google it.

Bulb is an 34901-MC7-602 which looks for all the world like an H7

.....https://images.cmsnl.com/img/products/34901mc7602-bulbheadlight_medium34901MC7601-01_42f6.jpg
https://images.cmsnl.com/img/products/34901mc7602-bulbheadlight_big34901MC7601-02_900a.jpg

I can't remember what the bulbs are in my 2000FIX and I'm not ferreting about in there in the cold lol
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulb should push into no.5 in the pic on post above. will be black and looks as though it is part of bulb. pull old bulb out of black part and push new bulb into the black part.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part 5!!!

That's the solution, I had no idea it was a separate part!

Let's see if I can get a pair of them in before the breakdown guy arrives!
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea about the fuse issue mind, but having two lamps in place wont hurt!
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have main beam / flash of main beam? Sidelight? Or just no lights whatsoever?

I think i'd be running contact cleaner / dielectric grease through the switch on the bars. I had mine to bits on this bike over the summer and cleaned all the contacts up.

i presume you've checked the relays are clicking?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wahey, I have light! Thanks part fivers!

I've got no idea what was up fuse/power wise, I'm off work tomorrow anyway, I'll have a good look then. They should definitely come on with a single bulb and everything was identical to how it is now. Filament is intact on the other one too so no obvious reason for it not to light up.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR is a pig to fit HIDs to btw, I had to manufacture my own spacer to make them fit.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i fitted them to the HR-V ... i just used made spacers out of PTFE. Wasn't a bad job to do IIRC.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MY burgy 650 has the same plastic spacer thing for its h7 bulb. Cheers whatever genius thought that up.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 26 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

op is derp Thumbs Up

(I had to fish my old bulb out the bin to retrieve part 5 on my MX5, I wasn't raging at it at all either) Embarassed
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the earth connections. Mate had issues with his VFR due to earth block being furry and green, apparently some goldwing models are known for crappy earth connector blocks too.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR definitely uses H7 - I've replaced mine in the past after they blew due to various other electrical problems, and of course it needs to plug into the shim - but I believe the OEM bulb is more vibration resistant.

One saving grace with the VFR is that you need to blow all four bulbs before you don't have any lights any more, since the high bulbs are swappable with the low bulbs. There are two rear bulbs too.

I've replaced more bulbs on the VFR than any other bike I've owned.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFRs tend to blow bulbs regularly if your reg/rec is 'iffy'.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
VFRs tend to blow bulbs regularly if your reg/rec is 'iffy'Honda.

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PostPosted: 21:45 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
VFRs tend to blow bulbs regularly if your reg/rec is 'iffy'.

Mine has been replaced twice, the stator rewound twice and various bits of the loom replaced. The bike has stranded me in the Alps and Carlisle. It has ended holidays early, and caused me to buy my spare SH300 to continue to Scotland. And it still has electrical issues.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are your breakdown chimps?
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 27 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sos motorcycle recovery.

I hasten to add that every other experience with them has been pretty top notch, but I think more of their custom is through the usual big breakdown providers rather than direct to them, they've obviously not got the direct breakdown cover bit quite nailed yet!

It's the first time I've had to call them since I've been directly covered by them, my previous experiences have been through Adrian Flux's Breakdown cover.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 28 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has only done 21k miles and i'm the 2nd owner. Other than rewiring the dash to sort out some wire track issues, it all looks nice and tidy and original.

I've had the fairings off about 15 times sorting out alignment of stuff and tidying up loose wires but nothing has actually broken on it and it always starts first time.

The only thing i bothered to change was the exhaust for a Staintune and the only thing that has broken is my neighbours ears Very Happy
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