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Suntan Sid
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 Posted: 21:14 - 28 Jan 2016  Post subject: £33M Fraud Foiled? |
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The meeja has been on the case of the unclaimed £33M lottery ticket!
Yesterday the front runner, for a life of luxury, was, apparently, a grand mother who'd washed the ticket!
Today, it turns out the grand mother will be up before the beak, in a couple of weeks, for a fraud, involving £200, not surprisingly it turns out she wasn't the £33M ticket holder.
The lottery people say they have now identifeid the winning ticket holder, the winner wishes to remain anonymous.
According to the reports I've heard, there were upto 200 individuals claiming to have lost, washed or eaten the £33M ticket.
Given that the real ticket holder has been identified, are the remaining 198 claimants guilty of fraud?
I'd like to think that the lottery people would attempt to have them all prosecuted for something!
The lottery people did not help the situation, they must have known where and, precisely, when the ticket was sold!
Announcing this would surely have put a lot of the hopefuls off.
On the other hand, keeping that £33M figure in the headlines, for a length of time, is great, free, publicity!
So, were the, false, claimants just, salt of the earth, cheeky chappies doing it for a giggle, or calculating fraudsters?
Has anyone ever heard of anyone who's managed to fool the lottery people into paying out?
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Posted: 21:37 - 28 Jan 2016  Post subject: Re: £33M Fraud Foiled? |
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| Suntan Sid wrote: |
I'd like to think that the lottery people would attempt to have them all prosecuted for something!
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Possibly tricky to prove intent, it depends on the story. I mean if you remember 4 of the numbers being right and the dog did eat it, you'd have a crack. Also, not sure how this action might play out with everyone else. Many it will appease their sense of fair play, most won't give a fig about it, and some might not buy tickets if there is too much bad press.
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The lottery people did not help the situation, they must have known where and, precisely, when the ticket was sold!
Announcing this would surely have put a lot of the hopefuls off.
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Or have the opposite effect as 5,000 locals suddenly remember they'd bought a ticket with those numbers and 20,000 people elsewhere suddenly remember they were in the area visiting great Aunty Joss and bought a ticket.
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On the other hand, keeping that £33M figure in the headlines, for a length of time, is great, free, publicity!
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Absolutely brilliant! |
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| Posted: 22:24 - 28 Jan 2016 Post subject: Re: £33M Fraud Foiled? |
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | Pigeon wrote: | Or have the opposite effect as 5,000 locals suddenly remember they'd bought a ticket with those numbers and 20,000 people elsewhere suddenly remember they were in the area visiting great Aunty Joss and bought a ticket. |
Sorry, what I meant to say was, the lottery people could have announced that they knew, exactly, where and when the ticket was bought, (without actually naming the time or location). |
Ahh, yes, completely. Reinforces your supposition that they were more than happy to grab the headlines for a long time. As you say, could have quashed much of the lather. |
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| Posted: 22:51 - 28 Jan 2016 Post subject: Re: £33M Fraud Foiled? |
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | Sorry, what I meant to say was, the lottery people could have announced that they knew, exactly, where and when the ticket was bought, (without actually naming the time or location). |
They also know the method of payment, it can easily be cross-checked against the till used for payment.
The moment the cashier hits "lucky dip" or throws the numbers slip through the machine, the following happens :-
If LD is selected then the terminal hits up the central servers with a request for a set of random number.
This set of numbers (inc date, time, terminal ID, cashier ID) are encrypted, assigned a serial number and stored in the DC, and to 3 DAT tapes.
Once all that has completed the DC responds to the terminal authorising the printing of a ticket.
If a number slip is fed into the terminal, the numbers are sent to the DC (along with date, time, terminal ID, cashier ID).
Once again, This set of numbers (inc date, time, terminal ID, cashier ID) are encrypted, assigned a serial number and stored in the DC, and to 3 DAT tapes.
Once all that has completed the DC responds to the terminal authorising the printing of a ticket.
There are 2 reasons why 3 DAT tapes are used.
1. DAT Tape A - A copy of the data is transferred to the gambling commission controlled, in house server which has no direct link to the Camelot servers.
The data is hashed out and checked against the data stored on the Camelot servers to ensure there are no cunning plans.
2. DAT Tape B - Stored on-site within a fireproof, environmentally controlled secure room.
DAT Tape C - Stored on-site for no longer than 24hrs before getting collected by Iron Mountain and stored off-site. |
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| Posted: 07:39 - 29 Jan 2016 Post subject: Re: £33M Fraud Foiled? |
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | The lottery people did not help the situation, they must have known where and, precisely, when the ticket was sold!
Announcing this would surely have put a lot of the hopefuls off. |
That's precisely why they don't announce it.
As I understand it, once Gangsta Granny there had made her fake claim, loads of other chavs also rocked up also claiming to have bought their ticket from the same shop.
As it turns out, Winalot knew where it had been sold, and that it wasn't that shop, and so could immediately discount the lot of them.
If they announced the shop or even the area, that would likely result in a flood of claims from the chancers in that area which would be (slightly) harder for them to disprove.
tl;dr version -
Lying slag: "Yeah, I totes bought my 100% legit ticket in that shop where that other lying slag reckoned she bought hers only she didn't but I did so gibs."
Winalot:
https://i.imgur.com/BYSUF0O.gif
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| Posted: 01:12 - 30 Jan 2016 Post subject: Re: £33M Fraud Foiled? |
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| Rogerborg wrote: |
As I understand it, once Gangsta Granny there had made her fake claim, loads of other chavs also rocked up also claiming to have bought their ticket from the same shop.
As it turns out, Winalot knew where it had been sold, and that it wasn't that shop, and so could immediately discount the lot of them.
If they announced the shop or even the area, that would likely result in a flood of claims from the chancers in that area which would be (slightly) harder for them to disprove.
tl;dr version -
Lying slag: "Yeah, I totes bought my 100% legit ticket in that shop where that other lying slag reckoned she bought hers only she didn't but I did so gibs."
Winalot:
https://i.imgur.com/BYSUF0O.gif |
Some choice language their squire. Well done sir, you must have half the Suns vocabulary there 
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That's just a little bit more
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