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PostPosted: 08:23 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Indicators - Bulb vs LED ? Reply with quote

Looking to replace the indicators on my hornet as they look huge, plus one of the rear ones is taped together from previous owner so a good time to change.

There are lots of aftermarket indicators , bulbs and LEDs

I know the LEDs ones need a relay but interms of safety and being seen are the LEDs indicators any good in day light ? I've been reading conflicting info on the Internet.

Some say LEDs have a very directional view unlike bulbs , night time they are spot on but in daytime they are not very good.

Also what halogens if a car hits you and they says I couldn't see your indicating as they are so small?

So my options are:

1. Stay with stock (put up with ugly but be seen, be safe)
2. Fit LED indicators (look amazing but maybe not as bright as bulbs?)
3. Fit smaller bulb indicators ( best of both worlds sort of!)

What are your thoughts ?
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What are your thoughts ?


My thoughts are that you are you over thinking something.

I rode through london for a year with LED indicators and didn't get deaded. Buy what you like.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some LED ones for my Hornet and they were pretty poor during the day. I ended up switching back to standard bulbs for fear of someone rear-ending the bike whilst I was trying to turn.
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've yet to see a convincing LED indicator set up that matches the visibility of standard bulb indicators.
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones I've seen (ebay cheapies) are pretty rubbish, can't see them on sunny days. OEM LED ones on Beemers, Ducatis etc. are usually shit hot though, probably a get what ya pay for thing. I stick with bulbs personally. My DRZ has handguard LED indicators and rear stock bulb ones, the Hornet has them ones you get from Halfords, bulb ones, which I am a big fan of personally, I've had them on nearly every bike I've owned and I think they're decent.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid a fair whack for me LED indicators but they are bright as hell.
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the official Yamaha ones at £35 a pair they not cheap, but they are fantastic quality and as bright as BMW standard offerings.

The Chinese/eBay specials are cheap for a reason.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Re: Indicators - Bulb vs LED ? Reply with quote

Depends on the models you buy.
They can low output and directional. They can be brighter than standard with a wide viewing angle.[/b]
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Tiny indicators will be hard to see anyway, and most aftermarket indicators are cheap rubbish.

LED lights are directional, but if an indicator is designed well then the individual LEDs can aim in different directions.

All the best

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PostPosted: 11:30 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy what you like, if other drivers are looking they'll spot them.

If they aren't looking then you can have indicators the size of football stadia flood lights and they won't see you.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear in mind, replacing bulbs with LEDs can make the regrec more susceptible to failure in the long run. Unused power has to be dumped in the form of heat.

Not saying it will do bad things, and no doubt plenty of modder types will jump up and down stating 'nowt wrong wiv it m8' but it's just simple electrical facts.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Bear in mind, replacing bulbs with LEDs can make the regrec more susceptible to failure in the long run. Unused power has to be dumped in the form of heat.

Ignoring any resistors used, we're still talking pretty tiny amounts, I'd have thought?

Low wattage bulb that only stays on for a very short period when it's being used and it's only used for pretty short periods during most rides.

So at a guess we're talking, say; the reg/rec going at 45000 miles or 45001 miles.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Bear in mind, replacing bulbs with LEDs can make the regrec more susceptible to failure in the long run.


Agree with G on this, not going to make any appreciable difference, and anyway it's a Honda, reg/rec is going to fail spectacularly at some point.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Bear in mind, replacing bulbs with LEDs can make the regrec more susceptible to failure in the long run. Unused power has to be dumped in the form of heat.

How did you get a license if you ride around with your indicators on all the time? Eh?
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
ADSrox0r wrote:
Bear in mind, replacing bulbs with LEDs can make the regrec more susceptible to failure in the long run. Unused power has to be dumped in the form of heat.

How did you get a license if you ride around with your indicators on all the time? Eh?


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PostPosted: 12:47 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone recommend any decent led indicators?

I know there is an oberon brand but at £61 for a pair they are a bit rich for me lol

How about any of the Oxford ones?

Trying to resist buying the cheap ebay ones
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your going cheap then stick with bulbs.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

So at a guess we're talking, say; the reg/rec going at 45000 miles or 45001 miles.


Dunno is it a Honda? Surely you mean 15000 or 15001 Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigup wrote:
Anyone recommend any decent led indicators?

I know there is an oberon brand but at £61 for a pair they are a bit rich for me lol

How about any of the Oxford ones?

Trying to resist buying the cheap ebay ones


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Or some oem accessory ones, I put some Panagale 899 ones on the back of the Multistrada and they are bright as and a direct fit.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Fzs wrote:


hes a roundabout knee down warrior of course.


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PostPosted: 17:14 - 31 Jan 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

New good quality LED ones are very good. The ones on my Mutlistrada light up motorway signs when changing lanes, and houses when driving in urban areas. Never seen a bulb do that on any of my bikes.

The aftermarket ones in my mates ZX-7R though, are so dim that you can barely see them at night. In daylight they are pointless.
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PostPosted: 02:55 - 05 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did bad things to a 125 replacing the huge stock 12w indicators with 21w tiny aftermarket ones. The replacement ones were way more visible though. Most big bikes that use i incandescent bulbs use 21w bulbs. Its mostly the shape of the reflector that makes a difference. I bought some chromed aluminium ones from j&s the morning the postman broke an indicator off my 535 right before the MoT. They were really good.

If you have an led indicator and a load resistor to bodge the flasher, you wont actually save any energy, so the difference is only cosmetic unless you have or change the flasher to be an led compatible flasher.
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