if a car pulls out in front?

BLOFLY 636 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Karma :

Hi all just wondering what is the best tactic to do if a car pulls out right infront of you while you are sailing past at say 45mph? I am wondering if I would jump as high as I could up in the air as the bike smashes into the car so I hopefully will clear the car and land on the road a bit bruised up, or hold the bars tight and lean forward with a handful of brake so that if the front of the bike smashes straight into the car I would sort of pivot over the bars onto the bonnet of the car and save my nuts from smashing into the tank and my legs from smashing into the clip ons thats my main fear about riding a bike a t-bone into the side of a car I see it all the time here and I really think that it needs to be addressed here in Australia we don't get taught evasive manouvres only emergency braking which is just like braking hard Confused

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Klause · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Karma :

If there is no real time to swerve... Aim for the hood/bonnet of the car, I would do this because 1.You can slide over the hood 2.Make sure they don't get away with it.

nc30 chick · Traffic Copper Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Karma :

Depends if you have time to react. If you do then aim for the front of the car as the driver is likely to slam his brakes on as soon as he sees you.

iCraig · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Karma :

I'd just dive off the bike like I did in my own accident.

I certainly wouldn't stay with the bike or aim for any part of the car.
Hitting the car would cause serious injury no matter which part you aimed for. In a head on collision aiming for the bonnet would be the worst thing to do as you would hit the windscreen also.

nc30 chick · Traffic Copper Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Karma :

I think the idea of aiming for the front of the car (thats what i have been told, not by experience) is that once the car sees you he slams on his brakes and hopefully you have enough clearance to get round the front of the car. (of course this is hyperthetical) Laughing

Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Now you see, my instructor told me to try to aim to get around the back of the car... He was basing that on the driver's reactions being rather poor I think!

The last person who pulled out on me was a taxi driver doing a U-turn on a national speed limit road, luckily for me (though not quite so lucky for the car coming in the opposite direction) he continued his manouver despite having seen me come haring around the corner towards him. I aimed for behind the taxi, closed my eyes, braced myself... And sailed past with room to spare.
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GOKU · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Karma :

if you have no time to react i have been told over an over...jump clear!!...if its up left right or off the back..get off the bike.

nc30 chick · Traffic Copper Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Karma :

Its very easy to say what we might do in the event of this happening. In reality, a good friend of mine had this happen to her (slightly different circumstances but same outcome nonetheless)
she didnt really have any time to react and ended up with the bike being implanted into the side of the car (had to be taken away together as they couldnt distinguish what was car and what was bike) and she went over the car 12 ft in the air and landed on her head. Lucky to survive, 18 months on she is still recovering.
I suppose with all the good will in the world, if this happens to you then we will panic and who knows what we will do. Hope it never happens. Rolling Eyes

I was told what to do but chances are i would panic and do the opposite or freeze. Rolling Eyes

Zoffo · Brolly Dolly Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Karma :

Mate of mine is a instructor and he tells all new bikers to aim for the bonnet if the accident is unavoidable. Doesn't always help. Worst accident I saw was a Blade impact with a car. Hit the side of the car so hard he spun the car round. His body had to be recovered from a tree.

gsxrboy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Karma :

I have no experience in crashing in to cars but it sounds to me if the car is moving then go for the back as with any luck it wont be there when you get there, if it happened to me i imagine I would just panic and twat it right in the middle......
I doubt very much there would be enough time to make a decision of this kind and you would just go on gut instinct or freeze.
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Krs · Trackday Trickster Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Karma :

Put it this way, If it's your first crash you will be to shocked to do anything but hit the brake's

tony532 · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 May 2004 Karma :

nearly happened to me at about 20mph all i could do was stare at the bonnet and think im going to hit that

luckily the bloke stopped and i managed to ride round the car

next time ill be better prepared

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Swear and give them the two finger salute
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Krs · Trackday Trickster Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Karma :

First time sum 1 pulled out on me (17yo) I got up and started kicking he's car in going madd telling him to get out.

I'm not a violent person but that's how madd it actually get's you. More so if it's you're first crash.

I'll be worse on my big bike Embarassed

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I can vouch for the fact that the crumple zones in the drivers door absorb a fair amount of the impact Shocked

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I suppose there would be some merit in laying the bike down and kicking yourself away from it if there is enough space as the sliding on the road will scrub off a fair bit of speed, depends how fast and far away you are at the time I suppose.

Noone has mentioned the 'walking' yourself backwards along the bike on your hands just before you hit, I don't think it helps but everyone does it! Laughing

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RickHolt · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Karma :

In my crash I was riding along at 30mph, a car pulled out from my left in front of me. It got to the middle of the road and just stopped dead. In that situation I couldn't go infront of the car due to one of those pedestrian crossing points in the middle of the road and behind it was the curb and a building.

I ended up trying my best to stop before hitting the car and aiming slightly for the front so I had something to travel over. To be honest I didn't expect to leave the bike, I felt like I was hardly moving, I thought I'd just hit the car, maybe do a little stoppie then bounce off and fall flat. I ended up traveling about 10 metres after hitting the car.

It's hard to tell yourself to try and go infront of the car and round it when it's still moving forwards, even if you know they will brake.

Jumping from the bike is not an option. I think it's just wrong. If you did jump, the bike is then free to go wherever it likes, it's your vehicle and your responsibility. You can't just dump it and pray for the best. (In a similar way pilots wont eject too soon at airshows because the plane could hit the crowd). Another thing against bailing out would be that the tyres, brakes and bike are designed to stop the vehicle as quickly as possible. I'd also like to be higher up in an accident, don't want to suddenly be stopped as I slide underneath a parked car, ouch.

Groove · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Karma :

i hit a car once.....when i was 15 on a push bike...tho simlar in some ways

Car (VW Golf) reversed out of hidden drive backwards leaving its rear bumper on the middle white line, might have just got around as only doing just over 20 (speedo Smile

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but a car was coming other way and no chance of missing it, i put brakes on as hard as i could and hit the rear end. still firmly on bike with feet also trying to stop me. hit the car probs a liitle over 5mph. my nuts fucking hurt for a few mins after and went on my way to school with the driver more worrired if i damaged his rear ring and his wife more worried bout me..too right!

still dont no what i would do when i get my bike when im 17 (june Cool

) tho probably the same...cant do much else Shocked

QuickSilver · Derestricted Danger Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Karma :

I know what you guys mean about the road rage. I have had two near accidents of car drivers pulling out on me. I had to swerve onto the opposite side of the road and then avoiding oncoming traffic by swerving back sharply and ended up on the path. I was soo angry, they dont even think about bikers and the damage they can do to us by not using their heads. So i let this nice driver know how i felt about her and her capability of driving Angelic

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paulthewitt · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 May 2004 Karma :

i would say aim for the low part of the car (bonnet, boot) and play it by ear.

but you really dont get much time, you go by instict more than logic when it happens.

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baldy · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Karma :

I would probably think 'oh shi...' and hit it head on or something silly.
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tony532 · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 May 2004 Karma :

i got object fixation

i just stared at the bonnet as the car pulled out

i gave him the v sign and the w****r sign

and as he looked at my mate behind me he did the same

worst place near me for this is a roundabout where car drivers dont even look to the right and just go blindly straight across as you can only see the road when you get to the junction

have to use the horn and swear at them every other morning

im quite sure they will never learn though Thumbs Down