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PostPosted: 14:24 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Big group rides holding up traffic Reply with quote

Went on my first big group ride at the weekend and some of the group members block off traffic at junctions and places we stopped so that we could all get out. I think there were about 50 bikes so it was a way of keeping everyone together. Saw a few car drivers getting a bit peed off being held up which is understandable. Got me thinking whether the group organisers could get done for holding up traffic like this?
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was this in the UK? If so, yes. They need official permission to close the roads.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wikipedia wrote:
A herd is a social grouping of certain animals of the same species, either wild or domestic. The form of collective animal behavior associated with this is referred to as herding.

The term herd is generally applied to mammals, and most particularly to the grazing ungulates that classically display this behaviour. Different terms are used for similar groupings in other species; in the case of birds, for example, the word is flocking, but flock may also be used, in certain instances, for mammals, particularly sheep or goats


Fag herding - only seen it once in the wild on UK soil, but very annoying, very slow, very inconsiderate. Much misery to befall thee if you participate again.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the background situation, I don't think a big issue would be made of it if it were a funeral for example, though not everyone held up for 2 minutes would realise.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been on large group rides in Germany where this practice was used - and the locals just sucked it up and sat there.

In the UK, any group rides I go on have a marker system so that there's (theoretically) no chance of getting lost or left behind. Once when pulling out of a filling station one guy pulled into the road to hold up traffic so we could all leave as one and some aged gentlemen nearly had a coronary with rage. He had to wait 30 seconds. THIRTY SECONDS!! AT HIS TIME OF LIFE!!!!

I prefer the UK system - in Germany yes, we all stayed together but there was no chance to play catch-up or ride a section on your own.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, typical BCF style - people get lost right after we leave Box Hill Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes they could be prosecuted for obstruction. Though unless someone got hurt in the process it's unlikely. Remember the 'rage rideout' a few years ago when something like 40,000 of us obstructed most of the motorways in the UK for most of Sunday? I don't recall anyone getting done for obstruction.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
something like 40,000 of us obstructed most of the motorways in the UK for most of Sunday?

You mean the UK rage-rides to protest mandatory Euro-wide hi-vis that was only being suggested in Ireland?

Hahaha, that was awesome, particularly when we'd been specifically asked not to obstruct all the lanes, but Rebel McHawg took it upon himself to do so anyway because FITE TEH POWAH.


Ahem. Yes, junction blocking is driving without reasonable consideration (RTA 1988 S3), or obstructing the highway (HWA 1980 S137), or heck, why not both?
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 09 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Remember the 'rage rideout' a few years ago when something like 40,000 of us obstructed most of the motorways in the UK for most of Sunday? I don't recall anyone getting done for obstruction.


What they did do was send out a whole load of RTA section 172 notices to keepers of vehicles which were seen on CCTV to be participating.

Quite a few popped up on pepipoo. The consensus there was to reply stating they were unable to furnish driver details due to being given a "vague locus" (they specified a very wide time window and location).

I wonder if anyone eventually got done for failure to furnish?
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I genuinely can't see the point of this sort of fucknuggetry.

Unless the object of the exercise is to piss off as many other road users as possible, why not just use the drop off system?
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

yewemmgee wrote:
I genuinely can't see the point of this sort of fucknuggetry.

On the couple of rides I've done with the local MCC, it's generally the cruiserati with their front-and-side-patched leather weskits who enjoy parking up on the roundabouts, arm out-thrust. Read into that what you will.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
On the couple of rides I've done with the local MCC, it's generally the cruiserati with their front-and-side-patched leather weskits who enjoy parking up on the roundabouts, arm out-thrust. Read into that what you will.


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PostPosted: 23:45 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Local Vespa Scooter crew do it on their Sunday run to Matlock, I happen up on them in on a ride out, they were blocking the main road to get everyone out.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 12 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather be held up by bikes than by a hearse/tractor/micra...
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PostPosted: 01:41 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: Big group rides holding up traffic Reply with quote

BBR wrote:
I think there were about 50 bikes so it was a way of keeping everyone together.


I can't get this ride out image out of my head now Laughing

https://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/8/2/82d78-group_hug.jpg

BBR wrote:
and some of the group members block off traffic at junctions everywhere...


FTFY

My educated guess is there has been Harleys there...they are known of been slow not only at junctions.
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PostPosted: 02:00 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outlaws in Brum do this, real bikers ride in a pack of one.
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